Originally Posted by ModelPerfect

You described something called a "Nikkyo Nage Pin" which is a shoulder lock. There is no such thing as a Nikkyo Nage Pin. There is a Nikyo lock/pin, yes. There is a Nikyo that is used as a throw, so technically it could feasibly called a Nikyo Nage, I suppose. But there is no nage which is a pin, and there is no nikyo which is a shoulder lock. Your instructor must have misnamed an ude osae or rationalized that since you have a nikyo lock, it should be called such...

As for NHB, I was trying to illustrate, maybe very unclearly, that there is differences between the street and competition. Aikido, it seems, is easier to pull off on the street than even the dojo. In competition, the attacker is aware of your training and isn't fully committing. Forget doing a kote gaeshi on a boxer's jab; go for the body or head. The fight would appear more strike oriented until you got close enough to do a technique, in that regard, it's not pure, 1-atemi-1-throw aikido. That's what I meant by "without serious atemi".

Was the Berkley dojo ever affiliated with Riverside? Just curious; don't know my geography over there...