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Originally Posted by CDSmith
And that pretty much brings this discussion to a close, for me at least.
The rest of you can continue jabbering about 3rd referendums and other myths.
Meanwhile the French commnunity of St. Boniface, MB, while smack in the middle of "english-speaking Canada" thrives and preserves it's Francophone heritage quite nicely... which serves to blow part of the separatist movement's argument right out of the water.
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oh shit
i jump in
I'm a separatist and pround to be
you want reason for Quebec to leave Canada ?
this will be a long post, but fucking well documented
The major prior event is the referendum of 1980 and the analogies people make with it. Nevertheless, we should recall that history does not repeat itself exactly. The Canadian political scene has changed significantly since the last Quebec referendum. The separatist 1 Bloc Québécois now holds two thirds of the Quebec seats in Ottawa so the Ottawa Liberals no longer occupy the moral high ground of speaking for Quebec. At the same time, the BQ feeds back continuous streams of negative images of federalism into the Quebec collective psyche. In addition, Canada has suffered the double defeats of the Meech and Charlottetown constitutional accords, the first of which many Quebecers took as a personal rejection by the rest of Canada.
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Where does the Québec sovereignty project come from?
Since the birth of Canada in 1867, there have always been supporters of independence who thought Québec was not just another province within the Canadian borders, but rather constituted a nation and should become a country. Negotiations in the 1960's to amend Canada's Constitution in order to recognize Québec as one of the founding nations and to give it the necessary powers to develop itself within Canada failed. These failures occurred even when negotiations were conducted by Québec federalist governments in favour of Québec staying within Canada. Elected in 1976, the Parti Québécois government held a referendum on sovereignty in 1980, obtaining 40.6% support. In 1982, Canada modified its Constitution without National Assembly's and the Québec government's assent. To this day, no Québec political party has accepted to adhere to this Constitution. In 1994, the Parti Québécois regained power and in 1995 held another referendum, where the support for sovereignty climbed to 49.4%. On November 30th, 1998, the Parti Québécois was re-elected and once again formed the government.
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Why does the Parti Québécois still want Québec to achieve sovereignty ?
Since the October 1995 referendum, the governments of Canada have ignored the will of the people of Québec to reform Canadian federalism. The federal government in Ottawa decided to maintain the status quo, accentuating problems which have existed for the last forty years. Furthermore, this government has multiplied attacks against Québec and continues to intervene in its areas of its exclusive jurisdiction, which causes severe problems in the planning of public services. It has also attempted to intimidate the Québec population by threatening not to recognize any future referendum result, notwithstanding the fact that Québec's democratic traditions are flawless and that its legislation on the financing of political parties and referendums are exemplary.
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another good reason ?
in Quebec, we would have legalised marijuana, gay marriage and a couple things like that 20 years ago... we are tired that a bunch of farmboy from Jesusland block those project
humm i will post more later