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Old 04-15-2005, 04:39 PM  
Pleasurepays
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in my opinion, there is not much difference between todays ephedra-free thermogenics and ephedra by itself. ephedra is most effective for burning fat, when combined with caffeine and asperin.

if you just want the energy boost, there are plenty of supplements that will have the same effect.... redline, xenedrine, hydroxy cut and all the others that are commonly found online and at supplement stores.
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