I had em last year, woke up one morning in crazy pain, doubled over. Went to the hospital, got an IV and sat there all night, passed em 3 days later, didnt hurt 1 bit pissin em out, I think the pain is generated when they are moving down as they are very small but looked at closely have jagged edges all the way around them. Didn't even feel em come out pissing, just noticed em in the strainer the hospital gives you so they can examine them, its better than tryin to fish them out of the toilet
