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Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips
They were referring to the really super-extreme shit that degrades people. I'd have to agree with them.
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No, they *started* with that and then moved on to slam heavy BDSM stuff, which is generally much more obviously consensual (the girl moaning in pleasure as the needles go in, so to speak) than the slapping-spitting-forced-gagging-crying-girls stuff.
And the point is, one man's extreme is another man's mainstream. If folks in this industry don't understand that, there's no hope for us.