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Daymare · 05-22-2002, 11:58 AM

I have always wanted to start my own paysite instead of sending all my traffic to pay per signup sponsors.

I know there was a recent thread battling between Epoch and Jettis, with Epoch seeming to be the more favorable, but what about the other companies? I need help choosing one, or maybe 2 and have 1 as a backup.

What I want ideally is a processor that takes care of customer support, giving out of passwords, easy cancelations, password trader protection, weekly payouts and a kickass partnership affiliate stats/payout program that is easy to setup.

Here is what I hear and/or know about the current processors:

Epoch:
>> They had a bad history of not paying reserves, but have in the last year really turned themselves around and don't have reserves anymore so problem solved. They pay weekly so I hear, and are in the midst of getting together a partnership program builtin like CCbill and Ibill and Globill have.

Verdict: Useless, unless I had my own scripts and a shitload of money to integrate into their system.

Jettis:
>> They are used by maxcash, charge a rediculous $1500 to get setup (although I here this can be waived, and if that is true, why the hell have it in the first place other than to ripoff newbies). As far as I know, they only pay every 2 weeks and don't have that great of a partnership program feature for affiliates. I have also heard that they scrub unusually hard meaning less signups, though less chargebacks.

Verdict: Useless again, unless you like getting paid every 2 weeks, losing signups to overscrubbing, and not having that great of a partnership program.

IBill:
>> These guys have been around a long time, but were recently bought out by some bigger company. Ibill has usually been pretty good, but I think their revshare program sucks the big one. It's a pain in the ass to see what site you are getting signups to, you can't see clickthroughs or where your traffic is coming from and you still only get paid every 2 weeks. On top of all of this, I have seen a lot of big companies and partnership programs switch from them to other companies because they were offering $1.95 or $1 donations onto a porn site signup. WTF was that all about. Plus, they have gone to crap with tons of people complaining that their signups went to hell with them, but were fine with other companies.

Verdict: Useless to me because I don't have 1000's to make my own traffic monitoring script and because of all the issues they are having and they only pay once every 2 weeks.

Globill:
>> I don't know a lot to tell you the truth about this program. They have high scrubbing technology, but seem to have excellent payouts and customer/webmaster support. As well as a pretty decent partnership program. Does anyone know how often they pay, and if they have had any success/problems?

Verdict: Useful if they pay weekly and have good stats for affilates. (I have to look more into them)

CCBill:
>> They seem to be the best choice for me so far in my research. They pay weekly "52 paydays a year". They have been switched to by numerous former Ibill webmasters, they recently enhanced their affiliate program and they track hits and signups fairly well.

Verdict: So far, they are the best choice for me if I were going to start my own paysite with partnership program.

Other?? I know there are some other processors out there, but I don't know much about them as they are not being used by big paysite operators as far as I know.

Keep in mind that anything I said was what I THINK to be true. This post is just my opinion on these programs. All of these programs seem to be trusted by some webmasters or they wouldn't be in business. All I am trying to do is get as much info on each as I can so I can make my final decision on who my processor is going to be.

So if you are a rep for any of these companies and I have the wrong idea about you, please feel free to voice yourself. And if you know something about any of these programs that I have missed, then please post what you know about it. I think that this is going to be the most important part of my paysite decision making and I want to do it right.

Now it's time for me to stop typing and to hear what everyone's got to say.

Daymare

05-22-2002, 11:58 AM
Daymare Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,674	Epoch, Jettis, IBill, Globill, CCBill or Other? I have always wanted to start my own paysite instead of sending all my traffic to pay per signup sponsors. I know there was a recent thread battling between Epoch and Jettis, with Epoch seeming to be the more favorable, but what about the other companies? I need help choosing one, or maybe 2 and have 1 as a backup. What I want ideally is a processor that takes care of customer support, giving out of passwords, easy cancelations, password trader protection, weekly payouts and a kickass partnership affiliate stats/payout program that is easy to setup. Here is what I hear and/or know about the current processors: Epoch: >> They had a bad history of not paying reserves, but have in the last year really turned themselves around and don't have reserves anymore so problem solved. They pay weekly so I hear, and are in the midst of getting together a partnership program builtin like CCbill and Ibill and Globill have. Verdict: Useless, unless I had my own scripts and a shitload of money to integrate into their system. Jettis: >> They are used by maxcash, charge a rediculous $1500 to get setup (although I here this can be waived, and if that is true, why the hell have it in the first place other than to ripoff newbies). As far as I know, they only pay every 2 weeks and don't have that great of a partnership program feature for affiliates. I have also heard that they scrub unusually hard meaning less signups, though less chargebacks. Verdict: Useless again, unless you like getting paid every 2 weeks, losing signups to overscrubbing, and not having that great of a partnership program. IBill: >> These guys have been around a long time, but were recently bought out by some bigger company. Ibill has usually been pretty good, but I think their revshare program sucks the big one. It's a pain in the ass to see what site you are getting signups to, you can't see clickthroughs or where your traffic is coming from and you still only get paid every 2 weeks. On top of all of this, I have seen a lot of big companies and partnership programs switch from them to other companies because they were offering $1.95 or $1 donations onto a porn site signup. WTF was that all about. Plus, they have gone to crap with tons of people complaining that their signups went to hell with them, but were fine with other companies. Verdict: Useless to me because I don't have 1000's to make my own traffic monitoring script and because of all the issues they are having and they only pay once every 2 weeks. Globill: >> I don't know a lot to tell you the truth about this program. They have high scrubbing technology, but seem to have excellent payouts and customer/webmaster support. As well as a pretty decent partnership program. Does anyone know how often they pay, and if they have had any success/problems? Verdict: Useful if they pay weekly and have good stats for affilates. (I have to look more into them) CCBill: >> They seem to be the best choice for me so far in my research. They pay weekly "52 paydays a year". They have been switched to by numerous former Ibill webmasters, they recently enhanced their affiliate program and they track hits and signups fairly well. Verdict: So far, they are the best choice for me if I were going to start my own paysite with partnership program. Other?? I know there are some other processors out there, but I don't know much about them as they are not being used by big paysite operators as far as I know. Keep in mind that anything I said was what I THINK to be true. This post is just my opinion on these programs. All of these programs seem to be trusted by some webmasters or they wouldn't be in business. All I am trying to do is get as much info on each as I can so I can make my final decision on who my processor is going to be. So if you are a rep for any of these companies and I have the wrong idea about you, please feel free to voice yourself. And if you know something about any of these programs that I have missed, then please post what you know about it. I think that this is going to be the most important part of my paysite decision making and I want to do it right. Now it's time for me to stop typing and to hear what everyone's got to say. Daymare Last edited by Daymare; 05-22-2002 at 12:02 PM..