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kane · 02-27-2005, 02:15 PM

I think a lot of the dems speculation on hillary comes from a recent poll that showed she had a 68% favoribility rating in new york and that her job apporoval rating was even through the roof with the more rule/conservative/republican areas of the state. But new york is not texas.

there have been many threads about her in the last few months. Some say she could win and some say she has no chance. One common thread I see is how the more republician leaning people seem to buy into the repub belief that they own the country right now and that they have a mandate and will be very hard to remove from the whitehouse. If they continue to belive thier own press, they will lose. They did win the white house and they did win both the popular and electoral votes. But not by much. In the history of this country we have never failed to re-elect a sitting president during a war. We are in a war in Iraq, afghanistan and the with terrorism in general and yet bush came within about 100K votes in ohio of getting thrown out. 49% of the people voted to remove him from office. And they did this with Kerry as thier candidate, who probably wasn't the best cadidate in the world. So for them to continue to think they have a stranglehold on the country is just not correct.

But back to the point. Can hilliary win?

the answer is yes. Will she? It's hard to say. There are many factors including how Bush does during his second term, where the country is 3 years from now and who the repubs put up to run. Also, the dems do need to get themselves together and come up with a party platform so that what they belive in is clear and is repeated by and backed up by everyone in the party so it becomes a national message. That is how Bush won the first time. They didn't focus so much on what he could do for the country, but what the party could do for the country. It's all smoke and mirrors and the dems need to figure out how to do that. another factor is who the dems end up running. If there are no other really strong candidates it will help her. If she has to scratch and claw and have all her dirty laundry drug out during the primaries, it would hurt her.

But in the end the question is can she win? Yes. The polls show that over 60% of the country is ready for a woman president. She has connections to the south which will help her and she has Bill who, love or hate him, is one of the great campaigners in the history of politics.

I'm not saying she will win, but I could see many scenerious where she could.

02-27-2005, 02:15 PM
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I think a lot of the dems speculation on hillary comes from a recent poll that showed she had a 68% favoribility rating in new york and that her job apporoval rating was even through the roof with the more rule/conservative/republican areas of the state. But new york is not texas. there have been many threads about her in the last few months. Some say she could win and some say she has no chance. One common thread I see is how the more republician leaning people seem to buy into the repub belief that they own the country right now and that they have a mandate and will be very hard to remove from the whitehouse. If they continue to belive thier own press, they will lose. They did win the white house and they did win both the popular and electoral votes. But not by much. In the history of this country we have never failed to re-elect a sitting president during a war. We are in a war in Iraq, afghanistan and the with terrorism in general and yet bush came within about 100K votes in ohio of getting thrown out. 49% of the people voted to remove him from office. And they did this with Kerry as thier candidate, who probably wasn't the best cadidate in the world. So for them to continue to think they have a stranglehold on the country is just not correct. But back to the point. Can hilliary win? the answer is yes. Will she? It's hard to say. There are many factors including how Bush does during his second term, where the country is 3 years from now and who the repubs put up to run. Also, the dems do need to get themselves together and come up with a party platform so that what they belive in is clear and is repeated by and backed up by everyone in the party so it becomes a national message. That is how Bush won the first time. They didn't focus so much on what he could do for the country, but what the party could do for the country. It's all smoke and mirrors and the dems need to figure out how to do that. another factor is who the dems end up running. If there are no other really strong candidates it will help her. If she has to scratch and claw and have all her dirty laundry drug out during the primaries, it would hurt her. But in the end the question is can she win? Yes. The polls show that over 60% of the country is ready for a woman president. She has connections to the south which will help her and she has Bill who, love or hate him, is one of the great campaigners in the history of politics. I'm not saying she will win, but I could see many scenerious where she could.