Originally Posted by BradShaw

6. Discuss the KB email list incident.

He came to me offering to sell an email list. I paid $17k, it turned out not to be what he presented to me. $17k lesson learned. I hope KB bought some good coke and hookers with that $.


7. What's your connection to Fantasyman? Discuss

FM thinks he invented the adult internet, and we all owe everything to him. I first came across FM when he called me in early 1998 wanting to buy my SE traffic. He told me my traffic would make more $ with his program, if it did not he would pay me the difference. Needless to say, he fucked me over, only a few $k.

In the old days, word was that if FM did not support you that you could not be successful. He wielded an iron fist and intimidated many people, but not me. To this day, I laugh that I am in the position I am, and he is hiding behind more companies than David Van Der Poel! Most of the people who blew smoke up his ass are not out of the business. And CE is a shadow of its former self. I guess there are only so many processing companies to blow up.

I could go on and on about FM, it will all be in my book. Including his many "scams".