NickPapageorgio

I stated once to you privately I would stay out of this Juicy but this thing about "Joe's past" keeps coming up. I know Joe on a personal level off the boards and I know about his "past". He was a bouncer and ran clubs in Vegas for a while. Also owned a lumber company. What is it exactly that happened in his past that you are referring to? I don't know where this is going but I am interested to find out.

As far as Joe's persona on the boards, I can understand where he is coming from alot of times. When he first got into this biz, people jumped his ass for being a n00b. Joe knows how to hold a grudge, what can I say lol. People shouldn't dish out if they aren't prepared to take back. As far as a loose cannon off the boards? I can honestly say that I DO NOT believe that to be the case. Joe is a standup guy and has some great ideas roaming around in his head, both mainstream and adult. I have never seen anyone as focused as Joe when he sets his target for business. The man absolutely goes into a zone and looks for every possible angle of attack to make the most of any situation. That's a fact. Boards are boards but always...business is business.

I don't think the entire story is being told here. Juicy, you know yourself that when you came on Oprano a couple weeks back, and some Oprano lurker made a fuss about you and Izzz being there because Oprano didn't need GFY trash on there, who came to your defense and said you and Izzz were both good smart business men and you should be taken seriously? Joesho... And now this? He's a loose cannon in your eyes now all of a sudden?

Now, I have never heard anything but good things about you dude, but what the fuck? It's not like Joe was the only party involved here. Promises were made and I can understand why the parties involved are upset. They thought it was a done deal. You were promoting it yourself in a thread the other day. Then all of a sudden you pull out without much of an explanation other than "you can't be involved anymore". Frankly, I would be pissed too if I had gone through having a site designed with someone's likeness and banners and anything else that was done. Someone had to do that work.

Besides all that, I am not going to sit back while my friend is being attacked about something dirty in his past. Inuendo is a hell of a thing. People assume the worst in most cases. What is it in his past that I don't know about? Educate me and the rest of GFY about this please. Like I said on ICQ, I like both you guys but I don't think it's quite fair to insinuate something unless there are facts that can back it up.

Personally, I have no vested interest whatsoever in the fuckinfired thing. I thought it would be cool to hear and watch but other than that I hold no stakes. If things didn't work out between the parties involved, fine, none of my business although I can understand both sides of the arguments. I just see this getting personal and would like to hear the whole story if there is one.

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