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Ironhorse · 02-05-2005, 02:17 AM

I found this on another message board, I thought it brought out a very interesting perspective on the situation in Iraq. It's a bit long, if you don't have the patience to read it just return to the State of the Union reruns of Fox News.

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Recently, in response to a reporter's question about an attack on U.S. troops in Iraq, General Myers stated "these are the same terrorists who attacked us on September 11th."

As we saw tonight, Bush continues to advance the fallacy that we are fighting "terrorists" in Iraq.

Besides the fact that Osama Bin Laden has been enjoying life and freedom over three YEARS longer than his thousands of victims and apparently feels secure enough to make videotapes from a television studio, it is now obvious that our political and military leaders are substituting the word "terrorist" for "insurgent" at every opportunity--even when attacks on U.S. troops occur, which by definition are not terrorist acts since they are directed against our military.

As casualities continue to mount and public support for this mess falls further, expect to hear repeatedly and insistently that instead of insurgents or guerrillas (the latter term being the best description of our enemy, but one I have not seen used once) we are now fighting "terrorists" in Iraq---the same terrorists, we are supposed to infer, who were responsible for 9/11. And if we can't infer it, they will tell us.

When the mission creeps, the language must creep with it.

Ask yourself this: What would YOU do if the U.S. was invaded by the Chinese on false pretenses in a grab for natural resources, and the Chinese built permanent bases all over the U.S.--making it very clear that they had no intention of EVER leaving?

Then, what would you do if the Chinese shut down your religious newsletter, destroyed your church, took over your town, broke into your house in the middle of the night, arrested, tortured and sexually abused your friends, and killed your childen and your parents at a checkpoint because they did not slow down enough? Don't think "we're capable" of that? Really? You might want to look at this, and wonder how many other times it has happened without a photographer present to record it for history:

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/20...raq.ready.html

As a patriot, if that photo was taken in your nation, would you fight the occupiers any way you could? Or do I overestimate you?

The people resisting the occupation in Iraq are NOT terrorists. They are fighting against an invasion and an occupation by whatever means necessary. When the colonists in the young United States fought against the British during the American Revolution, the colonists were considered "terrorists" by the British, because they used unconventional hit and run tactics, and because they would not stand in a straight line and fight like the British had been doing for centuries. And in case you did not know it: The colonial fighters also attacked and killed fellow Americans who sympathized or cooperated with the British--and there were many.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. If we were invaded by the Chinese on false pretenses, I hope YOU would fight hard and smart enough to be called a "terrorist" in China.

When your children and grandchildren ask you what you did to speak up against this insanity, what will you tell them? That you were too busy watching the ballgame or The Apprentice?

02-05-2005, 02:17 AM
Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,094	IRAQ: Are Insurgents Terrorists? I found this on another message board, I thought it brought out a very interesting perspective on the situation in Iraq. It's a bit long, if you don't have the patience to read it just return to the State of the Union reruns of Fox News. --------------- Recently, in response to a reporter's question about an attack on U.S. troops in Iraq, General Myers stated "these are the same terrorists who attacked us on September 11th." As we saw tonight, Bush continues to advance the fallacy that we are fighting "terrorists" in Iraq. Besides the fact that Osama Bin Laden has been enjoying life and freedom over three YEARS longer than his thousands of victims and apparently feels secure enough to make videotapes from a television studio, it is now obvious that our political and military leaders are substituting the word "terrorist" for "insurgent" at every opportunity--even when attacks on U.S. troops occur, which by definition are not terrorist acts since they are directed against our military. As casualities continue to mount and public support for this mess falls further, expect to hear repeatedly and insistently that instead of insurgents or guerrillas (the latter term being the best description of our enemy, but one I have not seen used once) we are now fighting "terrorists" in Iraq---the same terrorists, we are supposed to infer, who were responsible for 9/11. And if we can't infer it, they will tell us. When the mission creeps, the language must creep with it. Ask yourself this: What would YOU do if the U.S. was invaded by the Chinese on false pretenses in a grab for natural resources, and the Chinese built permanent bases all over the U.S.--making it very clear that they had no intention of EVER leaving? Then, what would you do if the Chinese shut down your religious newsletter, destroyed your church, took over your town, broke into your house in the middle of the night, arrested, tortured and sexually abused your friends, and killed your childen and your parents at a checkpoint because they did not slow down enough? Don't think "we're capable" of that? Really? You might want to look at this, and wonder how many other times it has happened without a photographer present to record it for history: http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/20...raq.ready.html As a patriot, if that photo was taken in your nation, would you fight the occupiers any way you could? Or do I overestimate you? The people resisting the occupation in Iraq are NOT terrorists. They are fighting against an invasion and an occupation by whatever means necessary. When the colonists in the young United States fought against the British during the American Revolution, the colonists were considered "terrorists" by the British, because they used unconventional hit and run tactics, and because they would not stand in a straight line and fight like the British had been doing for centuries. And in case you did not know it: The colonial fighters also attacked and killed fellow Americans who sympathized or cooperated with the British--and there were many. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. If we were invaded by the Chinese on false pretenses, I hope YOU would fight hard and smart enough to be called a "terrorist" in China. When your children and grandchildren ask you what you did to speak up against this insanity, what will you tell them? That you were too busy watching the ballgame or The Apprentice? __________________ [email protected]