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Pathfinder · 04-23-2002, 11:08 AM

This my E-mail exchange with Dave Lewis when I originally purchased his script.

This is an E-mail I sent him on the same day I purchased the script.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Airborne" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment

I am sorry but your script is not what I expected it to be. I am requesting that you return my money to my account. Please let me
know ASAP if you will do this without me having to file a complaint with PayPal.

Thanks

This is his response to the above E-mail.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Lewis" <[email protected]>
To: "Airborne" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment

Complaint?? I dont need your sale BUT....
Since youve already seen the script and over 300 people in this industry own
it
( not one complaint ) I could not give you your money back.
There is NOTHING wrong with the script nor is there any misrepresentation
whatsoever.
The script works perfect and several hundred companies use it as we speak.
You can file the complaint because I have done nothing wrong in 5 years on
the net.
The script is worth far more than what you paid and competitors sell it for
up to $600.00
You even got complete instructions plus it makes web pages just like it says
exactly.
You are the FIRST person to complain but not the first to make threats on
the internet.
Ask yourself this... if you sold me a script worth thousands of dollars (
for only $89.95 )
would you give me a refund if it worked for every other client on the
planet??

Dave Lewis

P.S. I will save a copy of this reply with all headers to send to PayPal if
needed.
I will take my chances and honesty should still mean something.
I never mentioned any guarentee on my site either and you bought a working
script
that has been tested daily with NO complaints.

This is my response to the above E-mail.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Airborne" <[email protected]>
To: "Dave Lewis" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment

I did not say that anything is wrong with your script. It is not what I expected it to be. It makes doorway pages. I do not need
a script that makes doorway pages. I have software for that. I was expecting something other than what the script actually does.
Once again I am requesting a refund of my money to my account.

Thanks

This is his response to the above E-mail.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Lewis" <[email protected]>
To: "Airborne" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment

Look... if you bought the script from
http://www.startingsearch.com/scripts/
Then you know damn well it makes web pages, doorway pages, gateway pages,
and whatever else people call them.
I just read my whole site and anyone who can read and comprehend
english knows it makes web pages.
You control the templates so thats not anything to do with me.
The script does EXACTLY what I say and I even show 24 included templates
AND their is a disclaimer saying if the script works.. you get NO refund.
What did you think you were getting... turtle wax :o)
Look... sell it to someone if you want but you dont deserve your money back
if you cant read. That has nothing to do with me or my business.
You are wasting my time now and I dont think that is fair.

Dave

This is my response to his above E-mail.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Airborne" <[email protected]>
To: "Dave Lewis" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment

I have a degree, so yes I can read. No where on your page does it say anything about this script makes doorway pages. I have
several software programs that make doorway pages. If I thought that it simply made doorway pages, I certainly would never have
purchased it.

I have been a Webmaster for several years and I have purchased several thousands of dollars worth of script and software. Several
times I have not been happy with my purchases and I have never been denied a refund. You are the first discourteous, unprofessional
person that I have encountered. It was very cute of you to put up the disclaimer after I have asked for a refund.

I will ask one more time for you to refund my money to my account. If you do not I will proceed with a complaint to PayPal as well
as with my credit card provider.

Thanks

This is his response to the above E-mail.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Lewis" <[email protected]>
To: "Airborne" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment

I dont care what you do. Stop contacting me. Give it to the Pope for all I
care. The script works and you dont get a refund. I dont care if I never
sell another script. I know it works and I know that its obvious that its a
web page maker no matter what you want to call it :o)

P.S. You were not polite either.. you threatened me with the very first
email and it isnt my fault you dont know what a web page generator is. Every
other webmaster does so dont waste any more of my time. I have never known a
webmaster as dumb as you say you are. It's your story so tell it how you
want. I have work to do.

Dave

This is a copy of the last E-mail from Dave Lewis when he learned that my CC holder is investigating.

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Lewis
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:54 AM
Subject: Never

You dumb lying pathetic bitch...... I told you I will never pay you a dime. If paypal does..... thats their problem.
I never will pay a liar and you are worse than a bomber in isreal you psychotic bitch.
I dont negotiate with cheap lying pathetic losers ever.

This is a post I made from another thread about his script.

"I bought it. Don't like it. It makes doorway pages. I thought it was something different. I asked politely for the Webmaster to return my money to my account. He got shitty and refused to do it. He has a disclaimer on his page, which I really think, he put up after I asked for my money back. I did not even test it for speed and efficiency, as I already have software that will make doorway pages. The templates and keywords have to be heavily modified to be worth anything as doorway pages.

He told me that the script is really worth thousands instead of $89.95. It was purchased through PayPal so even though I filed a complaint, because it is PayPal, I don't expect to get my money back.

I won't knock the script (as I did not test it) so if one wants to put in the time, it may make doorway pages, efficiently. You have to download and install Perl."

The way I read these E-mail exchanges is: You (Dave Lewis) have given me permission to do with the script as I see fit, so I assume that you will not have a problem with me providing the script to whom ever E-mails me and asks for a copy of the script.

Am I correct in this assumption?

04-23-2002, 11:08 AM
Pathfinder theking of trailer parks Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tehachapi, California Posts: 2,277	Dave Lewis: This my E-mail exchange with Dave Lewis when I originally purchased his script. This is an E-mail I sent him on the same day I purchased the script. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Airborne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 1:44 PM Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment I am sorry but your script is not what I expected it to be. I am requesting that you return my money to my account. Please let me know ASAP if you will do this without me having to file a complaint with PayPal. Thanks This is his response to the above E-mail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Lewis" <[email protected]> To: "Airborne" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment Complaint?? I dont need your sale BUT.... Since youve already seen the script and over 300 people in this industry own it ( not one complaint ) I could not give you your money back. There is NOTHING wrong with the script nor is there any misrepresentation whatsoever. The script works perfect and several hundred companies use it as we speak. You can file the complaint because I have done nothing wrong in 5 years on the net. The script is worth far more than what you paid and competitors sell it for up to $600.00 You even got complete instructions plus it makes web pages just like it says exactly. You are the FIRST person to complain but not the first to make threats on the internet. Ask yourself this... if you sold me a script worth thousands of dollars ( for only $89.95 ) would you give me a refund if it worked for every other client on the planet?? Dave Lewis P.S. I will save a copy of this reply with all headers to send to PayPal if needed. I will take my chances and honesty should still mean something. I never mentioned any guarentee on my site either and you bought a working script that has been tested daily with NO complaints. This is my response to the above E-mail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Airborne" <[email protected]> To: "Dave Lewis" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment I did not say that anything is wrong with your script. It is not what I expected it to be. It makes doorway pages. I do not need a script that makes doorway pages. I have software for that. I was expecting something other than what the script actually does. Once again I am requesting a refund of my money to my account. Thanks This is his response to the above E-mail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Lewis" <[email protected]> To: "Airborne" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment Look... if you bought the script from http://www.startingsearch.com/scripts/ Then you know damn well it makes web pages, doorway pages, gateway pages, and whatever else people call them. I just read my whole site and anyone who can read and comprehend english knows it makes web pages. You control the templates so thats not anything to do with me. The script does EXACTLY what I say and I even show 24 included templates AND their is a disclaimer saying if the script works.. you get NO refund. What did you think you were getting... turtle wax :o) Look... sell it to someone if you want but you dont deserve your money back if you cant read. That has nothing to do with me or my business. You are wasting my time now and I dont think that is fair. Dave This is my response to his above E-mail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Airborne" <[email protected]> To: "Dave Lewis" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment I have a degree, so yes I can read. No where on your page does it say anything about this script makes doorway pages. I have several software programs that make doorway pages. If I thought that it simply made doorway pages, I certainly would never have purchased it. I have been a Webmaster for several years and I have purchased several thousands of dollars worth of script and software. Several times I have not been happy with my purchases and I have never been denied a refund. You are the first discourteous, unprofessional person that I have encountered. It was very cute of you to put up the disclaimer after I have asked for a refund. I will ask one more time for you to refund my money to my account. If you do not I will proceed with a complaint to PayPal as well as with my credit card provider. Thanks This is his response to the above E-mail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Lewis" <[email protected]> To: "Airborne" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Receipt for your Payment I dont care what you do. Stop contacting me. Give it to the Pope for all I care. The script works and you dont get a refund. I dont care if I never sell another script. I know it works and I know that its obvious that its a web page maker no matter what you want to call it :o) P.S. You were not polite either.. you threatened me with the very first email and it isnt my fault you dont know what a web page generator is. Every other webmaster does so dont waste any more of my time. I have never known a webmaster as dumb as you say you are. It's your story so tell it how you want. I have work to do. Dave This is a copy of the last E-mail from Dave Lewis when he learned that my CC holder is investigating. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Lewis To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Never You dumb lying pathetic bitch...... I told you I will never pay you a dime. If paypal does..... thats their problem. I never will pay a liar and you are worse than a bomber in isreal you psychotic bitch. I dont negotiate with cheap lying pathetic losers ever. This is a post I made from another thread about his script. "I bought it. Don't like it. It makes doorway pages. I thought it was something different. I asked politely for the Webmaster to return my money to my account. He got shitty and refused to do it. He has a disclaimer on his page, which I really think, he put up after I asked for my money back. I did not even test it for speed and efficiency, as I already have software that will make doorway pages. The templates and keywords have to be heavily modified to be worth anything as doorway pages. He told me that the script is really worth thousands instead of $89.95. It was purchased through PayPal so even though I filed a complaint, because it is PayPal, I don't expect to get my money back. I won't knock the script (as I did not test it) so if one wants to put in the time, it may make doorway pages, efficiently. You have to download and install Perl." The way I read these E-mail exchanges is: You (Dave Lewis) have given me permission to do with the script as I see fit, so I assume that you will not have a problem with me providing the script to whom ever E-mails me and asks for a copy of the script. Am I correct in this assumption? Last edited by Pathfinder; 04-23-2002 at 11:10 AM..