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Originally Posted by Nathan
The reason Zend optimizer is closed-source is because it works with encoded php scripts and they do not plan to make it easier for anyone to write similar encoding apps. At least thats what I am guessing.
This arguing back and forth about open or closed source is useless. You obviously have a fundamental difference in thinking in this area. We prefer to encode our source code to protect it against tampering with and steeling by our competition. If you do not agree with that... thats not my problem. I have good reasons and all our clients and a LOT of other people agree.
Why in gods name would we not promote our program as the best out there? You want us to say "We are great, but program XYZ is really better."???? Are you totally losing your mind now? We WOULD sue you if you went, got nats from us, then put a shaving system around it, and then used NATS and shaved around it. Of course we would friggin sue you. You just caused major harm to OUR business and ALL of our clients! Why in gods name would we NOT sue you!?
If have not said its impossible. I have said its not as easy as you think ;) Read what I write.
5 Minutes, good.  You kick ass. I still do not agree that it is that easy though.
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Saying your program is the best is one thing. Telling people you'll sue them is another. You're over the top.
Sue this, sue that. Americans. That's one grand thing that we have here. If you even dreamt about sueing me for something like that, it'd get thrown out of court here so fast your lawyers would still be getting into their suits.
The great thing here is we have no DMCA copyright laws. I could legally decompile your source code, modify it with shaving and use it. And you wouldn't be able to do sweet fuck all to stop me. =)
Read what I wrote. You still haven't replied to my "10 line source code" post. Why is that not possible hey? It's just as easy as I think and you know it.
Still, you can go on and on saying how difficult it is, how near impossible it is. If you want to see if it really can be done, then let me. I'll prove to you that I can successfully create a transparent NATS shaver in under 5 minutes. Oh wait, shit I'm sorry, you'd sue me! Ah well, I guess we should all go back and lull in our false sense of security.