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Originally Posted by Dragon Curve
Why does it have to be closed-source? Some pretty major companies run entirely open-source software. Major encryption algorithms are open-source. SHA/MD5/etc. So really, unless it is using a very weak method of encryption, Zend Optimizer doesn't need to be closed-source. This is what we in the industry call "security by obscurity" which is generally shunned upon as it is, evidently, not secure.
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The reason Zend optimizer is closed-source is because it works with encoded php scripts and they do not plan to make it easier for anyone to write similar encoding apps. At least thats what I am guessing.
This arguing back and forth about open or closed source is useless. You obviously have a fundamental difference in thinking in this area. We prefer to encode our source code to protect it against tampering with and steeling by our competition. If you do not agree with that... thats not my problem. I have good reasons and all our clients and a LOT of other people agree.
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Originally Posted by Dragon Curve
I am not "pissed" - more attacking your arrogance. The fact that you are trying to promote your program is the best out there and everybody loves it is just way too over the top. I have absolutely nothing against NATS - but when you start directly saying you'd "sue" me if I did this, "no this definitely isn't possible!" It's ridiculous and unprofessional. Being humble is often a wise idea.
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Why in gods name would we not promote our program as the best out there? You want us to say "We are great, but program XYZ is really better."???? Are you totally losing your mind now? We WOULD sue you if you went, got nats from us, then put a shaving system around it, and then used NATS and shaved around it. Of course we would friggin sue you. You just caused major harm to OUR business and ALL of our clients! Why in gods name would we NOT sue you!?
If have not said its impossible. I have said its not as easy as you think ;) Read what I write.
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Originally Posted by Dragon Curve
Oh, and my explanation in my previous posts as to how to get around that is there as well. Wrap track.php to shave the clicks; wrap signup.php to shave the sales. Of course, you'd have to write something to add a member to the database into the wrapped signup.php but that's not difficult.
The fact is, it could easily be done. And it's far from a huge job. I could do it in 5 minutes I'm sure; others may take longer.
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5 Minutes, good.

You kick ass. I still do not agree that it is that easy though.