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Originally Posted by Nathan
LOL. Great examples. You know what isn't open-source that we use? Zend Optimizer, Zend Licence Manager, Zend Encoder. You know why? Because it HAS to be closed source to secure its inner workings.
And you are correct, Linux is entirely open-source. And I am using ICQ apps which are open-source too (they can nolonger connect me to ICQ, but heck, ICQ 4 is just annoying). This is all great.
I have no idea if you did not read what I write here. Or if this is the first thread you read about this (doubt it since you are so extremely pissed at me)... I said MULTIPLE times that it is possible to add stuff to shave AROUND NATS. The only thing I have also said is that its NOT as easy as everyone thinks to do so transparently.
Can you do anything else than insult me? No idea why you react so extremely aggressive. What did I do to make you so pissed at me?
I have explained in the previous post why simply wrapping track.php does not help in transparency...
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Why does it have to be closed-source? Some pretty major companies run entirely open-source software. Major encryption algorithms are open-source. SHA/MD5/etc. So really, unless it is using a very weak method of encryption, Zend Optimizer doesn't need to be closed-source. This is what we in the industry call "security by obscurity" which is generally shunned upon as it is, evidently, not secure.
I am not "pissed" - more attacking your arrogance. The fact that you are trying to promote your program is the best out there and everybody loves it is just way too over the top. I have absolutely nothing against NATS - but when you start directly saying you'd "sue" me if I did this, "no this definitely isn't possible!" It's ridiculous and unprofessional. Being humble is often a wise idea.
Oh, and my explanation in my previous posts as to how to get around that is there as well. Wrap track.php to shave the clicks; wrap signup.php to shave the sales. Of course, you'd have to write something to add a member to the database into the wrapped signup.php but that's not difficult.
The fact is, it could easily be done. And it's far from a huge job. I could do it in 5 minutes I'm sure; others may take longer.