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Originally Posted by Dragon Curve
Here's some enlightenment for you Nathan. Linux is entirely open-source. There are programs for ICQ, which are open-source, email - open-source.
You know that language you developed NATS in? PHP? You may be shocked, but IT is in fact open-source!
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LOL. Great examples. You know what isn't open-source that we use? Zend Optimizer, Zend Licence Manager, Zend Encoder. You know why? Because it HAS to be closed source to secure its inner workings.
And you are correct, Linux is entirely open-source. And I am using ICQ apps which are open-source too (they can nolonger connect me to ICQ, but heck, ICQ 4 is just annoying). This is all great.
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Originally Posted by Dragon Curve
All I sense from you, Nathan, is that you're entirely arrogant and not entirely intelligent. You are defending yourself with every inch of strength and attacking pretty much everyone in this thread.
Your posts are utter rubbish and you still won't stand up and say, yes, it is possible for someone to wrap around NATS to implement shaving. Wrapping is an idea that is years old. TCP wrapping? SOCKS wrapping? Hell, how about a kernel module that wraps system calls? IDSs etc.?
You'd have to be an utter fool to argue you can't simulate your code by wrapping around it with another file.
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I have no idea if you did not read what I write here. Or if this is the first thread you read about this (doubt it since you are so extremely pissed at me)... I said MULTIPLE times that it is possible to add stuff to shave AROUND NATS. The only thing I have also said is that its NOT as easy as everyone thinks to do so transparently.
Can you do anything else than insult me? No idea why you react so extremely aggressive. What did I do to make you so pissed at me?
I have explained in the previous post why simply wrapping track.php does not help in transparency...