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Originally posted by capribex
i don't need to ask myself... the people who join these sites want to see 13 year old girls in bikinis etc. they don't want to see "art" or "select a model" for their next ad campaign.
where they get the traffic from? wherever they can. it doesn't matter. if you SELL access to these sites, depicting 13 year olds in bikinis - you have (almost always) one thing on your mind, both in the case of the seller and the buyer.
anyway, i don't think we have a real argument, except that i say that the content itself doesn't matter if you hade the wrong intention, and you say that it depends on the content (unless I don't understand your post). the "type" of content may help the seller before the verdict is read. i am sure a webmaster selling nude pics of 13 year olds will get greater sentence. still, as far as jail time, or criminal record, or $$$ fines, or probation officers etc. are concerned - the seller is guilty of a crime eitherway.
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hehehe Im the one who is against these sites in everyway...
You say it doesnt matter where there traffic some from, you dont undertstand what I am referring to. There traffic is fucking pedophiles, they set up Yahoo groups... for example
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/up2-17fashion/
Which obviously only features models who are "up-2-17... this site is processed by Ibill and CCbill...
The Yahoo group is build to gain traffic for the site... in the Yahoo group there are links to totally unacceptable sites... but no one ever argues about this...
People want to blame everyone but the problem, if hosts and processors would stick together in having a "We choose to not process for you" instead of taking the monety, these sites would NOT be able to operate, much like Beatiality sites now...
Again, I say, if the PROCESSORS had any kind of stance on the issue it could help, but nah... as you know withn trueteenbabe he had 3k of monthly members hahah...
Also... the investigation is not over, and anyone who doesnt think there are "narcs" cruising these Adult webboards is silly... I said in the other thread... we had FBI narcs in our chat rooms 3 years ago to verify we were running an honest game, this was 97-99... these are people watching this industry more than you know.
the people who process for these sites, dont question anything regarding the site... id love to see the member list and how many 30+ guys are in there... these fuckers cant spelol art, let alone know what it is......
NO model agency finds models this way, its bullshit.
http://www.nonude-network.com is down, and its only been 3 days, wasnt connected with Jim Grady waas he? No, but hes getting major shit, and anyone who truns non nude teens will...
These laws are being tested now, and its now thast things will change, just as beastiality... maybew when its illegal the processors will say "We choose to not process for non nhjude teens" just as they claim to "have dropped the beastiality sites" when in fact they only drop them becauswe VISa will not process for them... its a big circle and the big dawgs always have their money in it somehow...
Processors have no morals.
Mush like VISa processing for beasy sites for years then stopping,.... im sure the non nude stuff will go away and everyone will play like they were always against it, as I have been...
I have made most of my money in softcore porn, never was into hardcore... it wasnt until this "teen" craze hit that people started going crazy with how far they could go...
Non nude doesnt mean under 18... no nude 18 is totally hot and will continue to rule the market, but again 6 year old with paysites? hahaha
Yeah - fact is, minors have NO SAY SO on what they do with ther body. It falls on the parents, who end up signing release forms anyway.
I have had 18 year old girls crying on my should because they just did an anal scene, wasnt expecting to, but the producers dumped an extra 500 on her to "get her go as far as she will on cam."
anyone in the hardcore adult business knows what I am talking about... "once shes on cam, the photographer can get her to do anything."
eh... not trying to argue, just theres a biiig circle in this..
For instance, KimmyKim defends that up2-17fasion.net site in the name of CC Bill... even after I told her they trade adult passwords and have links to 6 year old girls in the Yahoo club which is linked FROM THE FRONT PAGE of their pay site...
Would any processor process for my site if I have a link to a Yahoo group with pictures of 6 year olds? Or actually the model lists are seperated into ages... 6-12
13-17 and 18-26 pick a category and you can see whatever you like....
Im wasting my time again.
Just my
