12clicks - you are no authority on credibility or integrity. As a matter of fact I cant think of anything you say that is worth the time it takes to read them.
No matter how you word it, or what you say, your opinion is basically fucking worthless because an opinion can only be valid when you have the inteillegence to have reached that decision with some kind of thought process, which you have proven to have the minimal waves required to exist.
Please since you rather hide behind laws like the rest, you my friend are no worst than them. I would like to think that some of us can make a difference in keeping our business clean. If you have nothing positive to say, please dont reply, I am into furthering my career and my profession as a Adult Webmaster, these laws and these arrests effect us all in one way or another. Sure hide behind you being offshore, or its legal fuck it stance, but one day something will creep up on you.
People like Nina Hartley, whom I have met and spoken to were early pushers in keeping this business respected by the very outsiders that ONLY see the TRUETEENBABES.com news flash. These people need to KNOW that some of us (not speaking for you 12clicks) are good honest webmasters who instead of saying, "non nude is legal lets do it" we stand back and take a stance against that. That is what MY COUNTRY is based on. That is what I base my reactions on.
I dont know you personally or what you have done. But I have worked in the Adult Industry for over 5 years. Not on the internet but the Adult Indusry as in the movie makers and the real content providers.
I have had FBI "narcs" in chat rooms 3 years ago because of "visible insertion" in case you arent familiar with this, in California we have an "Obscenity Law" which basically says everything we film here is illegal. Anal sex flicks made 2 blocks from my home are considered illegal and indescent, and get you jail time.
I worked with a company who set up hardcore live feeds for Hustler because Flynt was the only one who would put his name on the line in saying, fuck the judge we got hardcore feeds from Hollywood" and we did this for years. Unfortunately as all laws change so do people will to fight.
We ran live web feeds for years to 1000s of paysite member sections, any big time players know what Im talking about. Talking old school here, 97-99. And its basically illegal for a girl to put a dildo in her pussy on cam in California, and msot states yet its done by 1000s of people making money. Lets not forget all gay/homosexual movies are illegal in thei Country under the same Obscenity Law,... because sodomy is illegal in most states.
So just because you dont give a fuck or care about the future of this industry do NOT sit back and think "switching my processor" is the answer, it is NOT the answer. If CC Bill and Ibill were not "known as being the non nude processors" then they would not have been processing for them in the first place.
Since I started this thread I have seen replies like "theyve always done this,".... and "CC Bill and I bill is known for processing non nude sites" -
well I didnt know this, and if it was not for threads like this, then maybe someone else down the line can make the decision to use certain processors based on this info.
To shut up and change my processor is not the answer, its only fueling the problem, but I am sure you wont understand this and simply cop a one line reply, proving your intelligence yet again.
Just stop, this is a discussion for obviously much more thinking than most conjure. Because it involves a question of charchter and personal choice.
Its my thread, deal with it.
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