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Originally Posted by Alex From San Diego
After taking a sample of 1500 new joins this is what I determined and would venture to say is exactly how PPS model can and does work.
Out of 1500 joins, the breakdown was this:
501 joins came from typin/www
160 joins came from check processing
252 joins came from foreign traffic
The 587 remaining joins came from primary or secondary processing.
1500 joins initially generated ~$13,600.00
Those 1500 joins so far have generated an additional ~$20,450.00 in rebills after month one giving those joins so far a value of $22.70 each. That value for each join will increase as the months go by "X" number of rebills.
Here is where the difference between the two models come into play.
On revshare, typically you are paid on EVERY join that comes through the system. I said typically.
On PPS, I could easily pay 30.00/join, if I ONLY paid on primary and secondary processor transactions.
587 joins X $30.00 = $17,610.00 in payouts.
After one month, I have already collected ~$34,050.00
Some might say, but the affiliates conversions will look like shit. No they won't if you count second page uniques or even worse join page uniques.
Typically revshare programs count 1st page uniques. Again, I said typically
I always find it important to count your own clicks that you send to a PPS program as well as a revshare program. Then you can do the math and really see what your actual click is worth.
Now if I was to offer PPS, would I disclose what I will pay on? You bet I would because in the end, it is YOUR traffic that you are sending to me and you have every right to know how you will be compensated for that traffic with either program.
This business is nothing more than a numbers game. There is no magic or in depth alogorithms for PPS to work. It is how you want to slice the pie and distribute it.
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The only thing you got right in this post is this business is a numbers game, otherwise the rest of it was a sloppy guess.
501 of 1500 sign ups coming from www - no way in HELL!!!! The check number seemed ok, a lil high but ok, and I'm not sure what foreign sign ups have to do with anything. If its a sign up, its a sign up. ARS counts 1st page raw and we credit on all sign ups except check (with a new option coming to get credited on checks for $35 per sign up instead of $40 for cc only). However, just like any revshare or other program you can not credit type in / www sign ups because they are not referred by a webmaster. Nice try on the spin!
Please rereview your own spreadsheet and rereview what I already wrote. You don't need to only credit 500 and some sign ups of 1500 to make it work. Sorry if my post seems a little abrasive but after very DEFINITIVE proof from yourself and my comments you still try to twist and turn this to show that "Oh yeah, I can see how PPS works if you only credit 1/3 of the sign ups" C'mon dude! PPS works well over $35 paying on ALL sign ups.
Finally PPS is the most widely used by affiliates for a big reason, it overall will make more money for webmasters. Even if you promote a killer 60/40 program - to compete with a $35 PPS program the overall member value of the revshare would have to be $58.33 and that would take 12+ months to achieve and without paying on x sells as well nearly IMPOSSIBLE in today's market!!!. Point being, it'll take over a year for you to get the same $35 that the PPS program is paying. Oh yeah, and don't forget, the revshare program owner is basking in the profits of consoles, upsells, x sells, emails and other income opportunities... Just because its revshare doesn't mean he is sharing ALL the revenue with you!