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Old 12-23-2004, 05:24 PM  
Libertine
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Originally Posted by Battuss
10k potentially dangerous people. Dont you think thats a bit much?
Im indeed not talking about 990k other muslims.

Then again, lets talk about the 990k (with whom i personally have no problem with at this moment) They are still muslim, what does this mean? Lets look at it black and white. Muslims will eventually always chose for their fellow muslim. Even the "non dangerous" muslims, in times where they would have to chose they will chose what we consider wrong. Know what i mean? They might be westernizing but still pray to Allah because thats the one who tells them what do and not the Dutch government.

But anyway back to the present, you talk like there's nothing wrong with 10k extremists because there are so many non extremists. I dont think i have to point out what ONE extremists did 2 months ago here in Holland. Now imagine what 10.000 Mohammed B's are capable off.
The fact that only 10k muslims out of 1 million are at risk means that there is no chance in hell of extremist islam gaining a foothold in Dutch politics. That's one important thing to consider - with so few extremists, the country won't be "overrun" by muslims seeking an islamic state.

Now, let's not look at it black and white. Let's not pretend that all muslims are the same, and let's take into account that half the muslims in our country don't specifically think a muslim party is needed - as a recent survey discovered (Nova). And let's not forget that currently, the single biggest party in the country is a christian one (which got 7% of the muslim vote, by the way).

To say that "muslims will eventually always choose for their fellow muslim" is ridiculous. Muslims are not a homogenous group, and the westernized ones will not choose extremism. They may pray to Allah - just like christians pray to God - but they drink alcohol, watch porn and listen to rap music.

10k people "at risk of becoming extremists" does not mean that there actually are 10k extremists. It means that out of the muslims in our country, only 1% have a possible chance of turning to extremism - and let's not forget that an extremist isn't necessarily a terrorist, it's just someone with extreme views. So 1% of the muslims in our country may in the future start having extreme views. Big fucking deal.


Oh, and obviously this "statistic" is just something the AIVD pulled out of their asses. Exactly 1% of muslims are at risk of turning to extremism? I call bullshit.
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