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kidney stones is about as bad as it gets for a guy. I have had them a bunch of times (I used to drink a LOT of beer). They suck bad. I had a nurse hit me with 3 big needles of demerol. She said it was enough to knock a horse on it's ass, and I was not even phased by it.
Put it this way. When my appendix burst, I was relieved it was NOT fucking kidney stones again.
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