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Originally posted by HenrySugar
Hi, To be able to make comments, you need to know history well and should not look the event at only one point of view. Cyprus was given to England to Protect it from Russia During the war of Crimea at the 19th Century. To that date the muslims are much more there. We can say the same for Cretan. And now although there are Turkish people here in Turkey who can say freely that they are Cretan, There is no Turkish People there in Cretan ;). Making comments by comparing the population is a bit problamatic. Although the population in Cyprus is against Turkish citizens now, it was not like this 100 year before.
Claiming that Turks made a ethnic cleansing is totally bullshit!. Do you know how many Turkish villages are burned among the years 1964-1974 by Eonian Party (I dont know the full english name) in Cyprus. Turkish Women are raped and even babies are killed. Even a "Rum" (In Turkey we call the civilian of southern cyprus like this) Man made a documentary film on this. After this, he is refused by his own country and his film is forbidden to shown.
Turkish Army couldnt find any civilian "Rum" as they all run away. Even the army could hardly stop some Turkish Tanks by landing some helicopters in front of them as they didnt know that there was a cease fire  . In Turkey some people think like this; We should get the whole island so there wouldnt be a Cyprus problem for us . From the date of 1974 there havent been any battle in the island.
This year, Nouthern Cyprus Turkish People voted for YES to the Annan's plan and Rums said NO although this plan is very similar to what Rums wanted for years. The Ones Who dont want to join with Nouthern Side Turks are the "Rum" people. Rums all wanted to join Greece.
Ottoman Empire and as well as Turkey is agreed to be a European Country from the date of Paris Agreement in 1873. Today in the world, Turkey is the most democratic and maybe the only laic muslim country in the world and Turkey made this achivements by itself with its nation.
When an European comittee comes to Turkey, the first place they go is becoming "Diyarbakır". Just Curious, Did the committee went to Nothern Ireland, Bask, Corsica When England,Spain or France is becoming a member?. Today when you are living in a big apartment you may have at least 3 or 4 kurdish neighbours which you cant realise that they are kurdish until they tell you. In Turkey There are at least 27 different ethnic types of people are living. Even the Turkish people can be divided to 10-15 minor ethnics. If you compare this you can easily see that Turkey is like micro-usa or micro-europe.
I think it would be a big mistake to deny a country like Turkey whose nation is very willing to join. Because gaining friends ia hard but opposite is easy. I know there are lots of things which Turkey should correct before joining completely, but Cyprus is not one of this. We will ofcourse recognise Cyprus in a day but this will be the whole Cyprus not only the southern Part !
Oops My quote was for the friend that started the thread not for you polish_aristocrat, I agree about the time with you...
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So you are saying that all the documents (from Turkish archives by the way), witness account reports, newspaper articles (The New York times published over 1000 articles about how the Ottoman Government were massacring Christians and described the Armenian massacres as a "Genocide"), hundreds of historians agreeing about the Genocide and over 15 countries all over the world have recognized the events in 1915 as a Genocide (Russia, Argentina, France, Canada, Greece, Switzerland ect...)
I would recommend you to read some books and do some research before coming here and talking rubbish. Calling the Genocide as "bullshit" is the only argument your kind and Turkey will ever have.
Turkey's whole history is based on massacring innocent people, oppressing minorities. The "Pan Turkish" mentality did not change a bit as your "secular" government claims. The EU does not need barbarians.