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Bobo · 03-28-2002, 05:34 PM

Guys,

You're not seeing the picture as clear. Yes, I agree that the Irish were brought over as slaves or indentured servants as Labret has pointed out. But the difference is that Irish people are white and can easily blend into the wider white society. The same opportunities that were open to them being white were not open to blacks because blacks cannot 'hide' their skin color. The jews are able to do the same thing. Many of us cannot tell a Jew from a Gentile. Therefore comparing the black experience with Irishor any other group doesn't wash well completely.

That said, it must also be made clear that ALL minority (non-white) groups in North America celebrate their own cultural heritiage. The Irish have their St. Patricks Day, the Italians have their festivals and the list goes on. In America, a country which traditionally associated blackness with negativity, blacks have created some of their own ways of celebrating cultural heritage. This is why it is not racist to have a Black Month or a Black Television Network.

As to the "What If" questions. No, you're not a racist if you agree to all of those statements. However, if you turn those 'what ifs' into actions that deliberately hinder blacks for being black than yes, you are a racist.

America has come a long way in a short period of time. Most of the arguments floating around today will probably disappear in another 150 years. In less than 60 years ago blacks were still being burned alive in lynchings across America. In less than 150 years ago you couldn't go into one store and buy a screw for your screwdriver that would be the same as screws from another store across the street. There was no such thing as standardization until William Sellers. What I'm getting at is that the world you see today is very different from the one of yesterday. Race relations are better than ever before and will continue to grow stronger.

03-28-2002, 05:34 PM
Bobo Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,253	Guys, You're not seeing the picture as clear. Yes, I agree that the Irish were brought over as slaves or indentured servants as Labret has pointed out. But the difference is that Irish people are white and can easily blend into the wider white society. The same opportunities that were open to them being white were not open to blacks because blacks cannot 'hide' their skin color. The jews are able to do the same thing. Many of us cannot tell a Jew from a Gentile. Therefore comparing the black experience with Irishor any other group doesn't wash well completely. That said, it must also be made clear that ALL minority (non-white) groups in North America celebrate their own cultural heritiage. The Irish have their St. Patricks Day, the Italians have their festivals and the list goes on. In America, a country which traditionally associated blackness with negativity, blacks have created some of their own ways of celebrating cultural heritage. This is why it is not racist to have a Black Month or a Black Television Network. As to the "What If" questions. No, you're not a racist if you agree to all of those statements. However, if you turn those 'what ifs' into actions that deliberately hinder blacks for being black than yes, you are a racist. America has come a long way in a short period of time. Most of the arguments floating around today will probably disappear in another 150 years. In less than 60 years ago blacks were still being burned alive in lynchings across America. In less than 150 years ago you couldn't go into one store and buy a screw for your screwdriver that would be the same as screws from another store across the street. There was no such thing as standardization until William Sellers. What I'm getting at is that the world you see today is very different from the one of yesterday. Race relations are better than ever before and will continue to grow stronger.