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Old 12-13-2004, 03:01 PM  
Lev
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Originally posted by BackToMine
Yes, fact. They get the approval of international election monitors.



No one denies that. But doesn't change the fact that its a democracy, citizens vote for the government.

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/shrd/2003/31021.htm



Exactly same as Israel and USA.
Israel was created using terrorism against the British. USA stole most of its land (....New Mexico...)




So why is it part of NATO.
Western countries relied so much upoun Turkey during the Cold War.
I am not going to argue with you. Just type "turkey" in human rights watch or freedom house reports and you will see what I am talking about. Maybe citizens vote for their government, because there is no strong opposition, have you ever thought about that, if you look at it this way, Cuba is democratic also, cause people always will vote for Castro, because there is no opposition

So you are comparing Israel and Britain. What about the Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians, Kurds and finally the Armenians that the Ottoman government massacred? They were citiziens of the Ottoma Empire and had all the rights to be protected. They were innocent people who got killed because they were christian and not muslim. Armenian Genocide, does it ring a bell??? The ideology that Turkey was formed on, the "Pan Turkism" is still embedded in the current government, which claims it is secular. Bullshit!

During the Cold War, there was a bigger threat, the Soviet Union, so Europe and the U.S. could care less about Turkey's poor democracy and what it does to its minorities. It's politics.
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