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		| Originally posted by Sly Talking about beating deals in a competitors thread is not very professional and actually quite tacky.
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 Oh, is it now?  Just an FYI, he's not a "competitor" by any stretch of the imagination.  Have you seen me offer a better price in this thread?  Have you seen me SLASH THE PRICES in this thread? Have you seen me do anything other than making a tongue-in-cheek statement about the morality of me doing so?
Nothing personal against badmunchkin but he is a print broker.  He does not own the equipment, he resells a product.  They [brokers] have cut prices so low that it's hard for us printers to cover our overhead and stay in business.  There have been over 5 printers in the Bay Area alone that have closed down within the last 2 years because of this.  Brokers are basically whoring themselves out at rock bottom prices and expect printers to take the actual monetary hit.  They don't have any overhead that they have to worry about.  
My Karat74 costed me $550,000 and the Heidelberg was well over a million.  I have a 13,000 square foot facility with a $12,000 monthly electric bill and 40 employees I have to pay.  If the price cutting trend continues then I will eventually have to close my shop.  I have over 100 brokers that resell my product and depend on me but what they don't realize is that I don't make enough profit off of them to cover my overhead because of this price slashing bullshit going on in our industry.
If I wanted to I could offer the EXACT SAME PRODUCT for $30 and still make about $5 profit, I just choose not to.  
