12-03-2004, 10:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by raymor
This page links to some threads about Strongbox:
http://www.bettercgi.com/strongbox/references.html
Some of the differences between Strongbox
and most systems that appear to be somewhat
similar are immediately apparent from looking
over the site, like the fact that with Strongbox
you pay a one time flat fee instead of a monthly fee.
You're probably already familiar with some of
those differences and if not you'll see them
by looking over the site, so I won't rehash
all of those details here. Instead I wanted to
mention a couple of major differences in the
overall philosophy of Strongbox which may
not be as readily apparent.
There are two major differences between
Strongbox and "the other guys". Strongbox was
designed because the other systems
were not at all effective enough for some sites,
in many people's opinions. Other systems were
convenient to use, they had pretty interfaces,
etc. but they just didn't work all that darn well.
Therefore in the design of Strongbox we gave
up some things, like easy installation on some
sites, to gain much better security. I figured
that even if it takes two hours for me to install
and configure it for you but then your site is
secure for the next 10 years that's a better
idea than having something that can be
installed in 10 minutes but isn't nearly as
effective. So Strongbox provides much better security at the cost of being more of a hassle
to install
on some sites.
Also because of the emphasis on building the
most secure possible system, that means a
major emphasis on research and development.
We don't spend a lot of time and money on marketing,
we don't build a super slick web site, we just build
a security system that is second to none by
developing new techniques and refining old
techniques on a daily basis.
For the first year after Strongbox was released
it didn't even have a web page. We were too
busy researching how to most effectively
stop proxy based dictionary attacks coming
from 50 different IPs at once to worry about
making a web page. Later we put up a simple
page, mostly just to avoid answering the same
questions over and over. But rather than making
the web page real pretty so it would sell well
or even
taking the time to finish up the secure online credit
card order form, we went back to the lab and built
the Strongbox Proactive Spider, which actively
spiders thousands of password sites every day
looking for passwords to your site.
Many webmasters have asked about a referal program
so they could put up Strongbox banners or whatever,
which would be great marketing for Strongbox.
However, instead of developing a banner program we
decided to spend the time on geotracking, so
Strongbox could detect when a username
is being used from many different locations.
So in short Strongbox has a very plain web site,
almost no marketing, no smiling sales guys
on the other end of the phone, and it has
the absolute best security in the world by far.
Nothing else comes anywhere close.
(You can call us, but rather than a smiling sales
guy you'll be talking to a mad scientist who
will get all excited telling you about the latest
technology added to Strongbox).
In closing, I'll mention that several of the specific
technologies used by Strongbox that aren't
available anywhere else aren't mentioned on
the site and I'll probably never mention them
in a public post. Some of the things we've
done are pretty good ideas that work pretty
darn well. It'd be easy enough for "the other
guys" to do some of these things and make
their product work better, but if they want to
find out why Strongbox is so much better than
their system they'll have to buy a copy and see why.
I'm not going to lay it all out for them in this post. 
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i saw it last night, installed on another paysite ( http://exploitedteens.com/sblogin/login.shtml/members/) with a visual password feature. is that a new feature in the script? |
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