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Old 11-03-2004, 12:39 PM  
davidd
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Originally posted by CamChicks
I disagree. They are being fucking pussies and dilluting their message and not challenging Bush and calling this administration out on their lies. There is enough proof to prosecute this government for treason, and that's more than enough to win an election. But they listen to bullshit polls of people who don't really know what they want, and tell the pollsters what sounds nice, vs. what would really win. When the people don't know what they need to know, you can't just ask them - you have to lead and educate. And, yeah, that's hard. The republicans tricked the democrats into playing by nonsense rules they set up. How the hell do you explain to the american people how badly GW has fucked us, while still trying to sound "optimistic". America needs a wake-up call and Kerry failed to take the risks of challenging (mistaken) beliefs and telling people unpopular truths. That was the difference between him and Howard Dean - and the disparity between the energy of support.
You do not need to be optimistic, but you need to offer solutions, and not just come off as a whiner group of people who are not presenting solutions.

Even at this point does anyone know exactly where Kerry stood on Iraq? He would, "Work with our friends and allies to get more participation". Okay, how about backing that up with substance. It sounds great, but as with most things they have been offering up lately it is sound bites with no real discussion of what they would do.

This all falls back to offering no solutions and sticking with issues that really do not concern the average American.

I would agree with you on Dean. He knew where he stood and was not afraid to talk about it (that is what pepople want). He was harsh on all of his opponents and would have energized people. He was eliminated in favor of a candidate 'that could win'. Republicans did this with Bob Dole and learned from their mistake. The Democrats should have learned with Gore/Lieberman. Gore was a 3 time loser, who chose a running mate that alienated the Red states.

There is a pattern forming, that they clearly have no desire to break.

-dd
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