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Old 10-08-2004, 08:48 PM  
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Originally posted by Dirty Dane
1. You find a topic, almost 1 year old, and start whining by quoting one line at the time, without reading AND understanding the hole message.
2. Next, you act like trolls, and start dramas on every single forum you find. Even non-webmaster forums (picture and gallery posting forums). Misleading other people with only one objective: to harm abbywinters.com?

I don't know what your motivation is, and since I'm affiliate myself, I read the hole "story" and the topics posted on different boards.

First of all, I can NOT find any places where Abby encourage surfers to delete their cookies. Neither on her forum, or at mainsite or signup page. She brings the subject, maybe from a wrong perspective, but the intention was to discuss the costs of making and maintain an adult website. And payment to affiliates is one of those costs. 50 % is a lots of money, and suddenly you are surprised that paysite owners considering their revshare revenue??? Welcome to adult business...

Abby is honest about it by bringing it up, and at least she is not cheating, like some others you "trust".
For those of you who suspect she is cheating affiliates, check your stats. I can only speak for myself, and say that abbywinters is on my toplist when it is converted to dollars compared to traffic. I have enough data to compare; over 100 million hits, to couple of thousands promoted paysites, over many years.

Second, for those of you complaining of the "missing" rebill option: this is a revshare program, and you get 50 % on different options. Never heard of that before?
When I get 75$ revenue for one year signups, I do not complain about it, do I? If you know how to promote a website, you will get those signups.

I respect abbywinters excellent program, the treatening of their amateur models, and affiliate policy that not only raise the quality but also try to selfregulate the adult market through the latest ICRA requirements. I also respect affiliates that put some soul and effort into their work. They have it all: tons of promotional tools, unique models, great ratios and abby does not bullshit you. What more can you ask for?

But what I hate, is lazy affiliates that live in their mamas basement and think they can have money for beer by doing nothing, because when it comes to serious work, they have really no clue how to do two-way business. Or they are too lazy to think requirements as a challenge.

Take it or leave it, but stop creating dramas based on lies - and stop posting at public pic/gallery posting boards, including mine, that only confirm some kind of hate crusade, because it does not belong there.
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