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Kimmykim · 02-06-2002, 03:29 PM

There is more than one issue here, and I'll be happy to break it down one by one.

1. Content theft. When someone 'borrows', steals, whatever, content from someone else, ONLY the copyright HOLDER has the right to claim damages under DMCA. Just because you bought some content and you know someone else stole it does not give you the right to make claims in lieu of the copyright holder. If you see content you think was stolen from someone other than yourself, your best bet is to notify the copyright holder.

If you are the copyright holder, be it stolen images, stolen pages, etc., then I'd assume you've contacted someone at both the sites billing and hosting companies, and that they have properly asked you to fill out a DMCA affadavit and return the signed copy to them, at which point they should take action.

2. Non nude teens. Legal in the eyes of Customs and the FBI. Right or wrong? I don't know. I wouldn't sign papers for my daughter (if I had a daughter) to pose like that, but then again I don't think I'd allow her to be in a Calvin Klein ad either.

3. Nude children. The legality here is dependant upon the circumstances, many more times legal than not. My personal vote on this one is wrong, whether it's legal or not.

4. Our position on all this. Our AUP precludes using content that contains anyone under 18 naked. Does that mean that people can't go in and change what we've seen? No. Does that mean that people can't and won't occasionally trick us with what we do see? No. Does that mean we see every page of every web site we process for every day? No.

5. Demanding on message boards that we do this, that, or the other. Seems to be becoming quite popular lately, and doesn't really do any good. If you want to complain about something we do, then an email to either your sales rep or myself is the best way to go about getting results. That way you can get an answer that is correct from our standpoint and lets you know where we are on your question.

There is sooooo much misinformation about what's legal, what's not, what's in good taste, poor taste, you name it, that message boards really aren't the place to attempt to get a company policy changed, collect a debt, call someone a cheater or claim that a sponsor shaves.

They are a place to ask questions, bullshit with pals, gain ideas, etc, and they are very good for that.

To attempt to use them in any other context is probably time that you could have spent doing something else.

02-06-2002, 03:29 PM
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	There is more than one issue here, and I'll be happy to break it down one by one. 1. Content theft. When someone 'borrows', steals, whatever, content from someone else, ONLY the copyright HOLDER has the right to claim damages under DMCA. Just because you bought some content and you know someone else stole it does not give you the right to make claims in lieu of the copyright holder. If you see content you think was stolen from someone other than yourself, your best bet is to notify the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, be it stolen images, stolen pages, etc., then I'd assume you've contacted someone at both the sites billing and hosting companies, and that they have properly asked you to fill out a DMCA affadavit and return the signed copy to them, at which point they should take action. 2. Non nude teens. Legal in the eyes of Customs and the FBI. Right or wrong? I don't know. I wouldn't sign papers for my daughter (if I had a daughter) to pose like that, but then again I don't think I'd allow her to be in a Calvin Klein ad either. 3. Nude children. The legality here is dependant upon the circumstances, many more times legal than not. My personal vote on this one is wrong, whether it's legal or not. 4. Our position on all this. Our AUP precludes using content that contains anyone under 18 naked. Does that mean that people can't go in and change what we've seen? No. Does that mean that people can't and won't occasionally trick us with what we do see? No. Does that mean we see every page of every web site we process for every day? No. 5. Demanding on message boards that we do this, that, or the other. Seems to be becoming quite popular lately, and doesn't really do any good. If you want to complain about something we do, then an email to either your sales rep or myself is the best way to go about getting results. That way you can get an answer that is correct from our standpoint and lets you know where we are on your question. There is sooooo much misinformation about what's legal, what's not, what's in good taste, poor taste, you name it, that message boards really aren't the place to attempt to get a company policy changed, collect a debt, call someone a cheater or claim that a sponsor shaves. They are a place to ask questions, bullshit with pals, gain ideas, etc, and they are very good for that. To attempt to use them in any other context is probably time that you could have spent doing something else.