theKing:
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The "insurgents" are composed of foreign fighters...former baathists (many of which will be put on trial when if they are captured)...follwers of a couple of Ayatollas (that are attempting a power grab)...loyalists to Saddam/Iraq...and those who hate Americans...for whatever their individual reasons. The estimated number of "insurgents" range from 10,000-50,000...which represents a very small number compared to the 27,000,000 population.
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If you think that is a balanced assessment - ya are miles out of line.
What do you think guys do when their families have been blown to bits? Say "shit happens" and forget it?
I'm sure you will find many who have very serious problems with the US and are resolving them with a few RPG's. Sure as hell, if that happened to me, I'd be killing every last asshole I could find until they were out of the place.
Your assessment reminds me of the days Rumsfeld claimed this was "just a minority band of thugs". Another "balanced judgement".
I have little doubt the US will be doing one of these "departure routines" again shortly - tho maybe not before they have bombed the fuck out of a few more thousand and the US body bag count has increased.
Iraq and that region is not a place where there are "winners". These people have their own culture/customs which is their biz - not anyone else's. They have fought for many decades and grew up with a gun and some arms strapped around em.
This latest invasion is not going to "change minds" and make em love "western customs" and "democracy" as it is imposed. They clearly want the US out of the place along with the latest "interim government".
Sure, there are good intentions stuck in the middle of this hellhole, but people don't want to know "how it is" or "how it will be". They will make up their own minds "how it will be". You can't change minds easily (and certainly not by bombs), and in the meantime, they deserve the respect of their "ways".
They were living a culture long before the US was ever a gleam in someone's eye.
There is good and bad on both sides - there ain't no "innocents" in this lot. Some folks have a lot to answer for - on both sides.
When you sit back and look at the overall - the first blatant question has got to be - What the fuck is the US doing there in the first place? It has nothing whatsoever to do with a country miles away from Iraq. Same applies to Israel. Again.. another problem.
If folks minded their own fucking business in the first instance and actually started managing the shit in their own backyard, perhaps we would see nada of "anti US terrorism". There would be no reason for their "terrorism" or "hatred".
100:1 bet we ain't seen anything yet - this "war" ain't even started. That is a great pity - for those both outside and inside the US.
A few more months and we'll have the glimmer of how it *is* all another Vietnam - that is, when the "state of denial" changes into reality.
PS.. Afghanistan is the same.. a fuckup which cannot be managed. Won't bore ya with the usual "how opium is doing well" and "how only 9 million are on electoral roles". It's just so damned pathetic.