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Originally posted by SweetT
I have to agree with Rick, Matt.....we sometimes ask ourselves around my office "is this the hill we want to die on?"......I think you picked the wrong hill but that's your perrogative.
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If people make the decision to dislike me because I'm moral - then I'm OKAY with that. So what, people know me as being moral and actually making a statement. I'd say that's a good thing - but that's just my perrogative.
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I just want to make one point.....you have made the basis of your argument morals which I, *personally*, think is baseless. At this point it is like an opinion and when you post your opinion you need to be ready for people to post theirs back. When you attack someone it should be with facts and not with opinions/morals because everyones morals/opinions are not necessarily the same as yours. I get emails and phone calls all the time telling me that I have NO MORALS because I host "all that pornographic stuff" and it is usualy followed by the caller telling me that I am going to "burn in hell". They do this because in their opinion it is morally wrong for any of us to be putting out Adult Entertainment Web Sites. So, who's morals are right and just? Mine? Theirs? Yours?
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As tony404 posted, your argument of morals being baseless and not mattering speaks volumes of whoever believes that.
AND - I'm not attacking anyone - I'm attacking pre-checked cross-sales. If people take offense to that then "that's their perrogative" but more so, it states that their morals are opposite of mine to the specific issue.
Once again, if people decide to dislike me because of taking this moral stand-point then that's their decision, as inappropriote as it may be.
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Now with that said, let me add that Chris Mallick is one of my best friends. I would rank him in the Top 5 Brightest Minds in our industry (and would be hard pressed not to make him Top 2). He is smart, innovative, and yes, profitable. If I were you I would take him up on his offer to meet.....if you would like me to be there I would happily be there. I have never had a single conversation with Chris where I did not learn something.....and you would too.
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Okay, I do respect what you say so I will think about taking up his offer to meet then and would be great to have your / other view points in the room, though I'd not want to go alone; would be slightly careless of me.
And not to question your friendship with him, but everyone knows that people befriend people who are in the same financial and mental capacity, which is why you're friends.
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I like you, Matt...you know that....and I respect your right to say whatever you think....but ask yourself.....is this the hill you want to die on?
--T
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With the final comment, you're making the assumption that I'm going to be dying on a hill because of this.
If someone chooses to take my stance against pre-checked cross-sales personally, then that's their mistake, and then for me, it'd be an easy decision to not do business with them.
If you're wondering why this thread was started, it was because I did NOT expect the responses that the CEO of Epoch/PayCom made.
Tony - Do you respect what your friend said to me?
"Were you not held enough as a child?"
Even if it was sarcastic, it was meant as an attack, shallow, a stupid and pointless comment.
If anything he can own up and apologize. It was childish - and yes, I was shocked that it came from a company that I overall have only ever had good respect for, and only ever heard good things of.
Matt