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Originally posted by Hue G. Pness
How so? Please elaborate?
It simply starts with a quote saying there is not threat of terrorism and then goes on to showing acts of terrorism directly attributed and in most cases even claimed by Osama/Al Queda.
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It mixes footage of Iraq and Afghanistan to create the illusion that they are related; when in fact Afghanistan was ruled by a radical islamic theocracy, the Taliban, who supported Osama and were directly involved in 9/11 vs. Iraq which was rules by a secular government (who killed powerhungry clerics) and who played absolutely no role in 9/11. Osama and Saddam were ideological enemys and Osama called Saddam an infidel and wanted his regime overthrown. 9/11 was an invitation and Bush took the bait.
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Originally posted by Hue G. Pness
Saddam was a terroist as well. Mostly of his own people. Oh let's see, most American's are not Kurds so they wouldn't relate to the the early 90's when he hit Kurdish towns in northern Iraq with chems. No, that's not terrorism and there must be room in this world for people that feel it's ok to try and kill off an entire population just because they are not of the same religion.
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Saddam did not gas the Kurds because they were not of the same religion. He gassed the Kurds because the Kurds tried to start a civil war with both Iraq and Turkey claiming land they had no right to in over 1000 years. Saddam used gas because his army was busy fighting the islamic radicals in Iran for us. Do some research on the Kurds and it's hard to have sympathy for them.
What would America do if all the mexicans in texas started killing white people to claim that land back?
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Originally posted by Hue G. Pness
What a lot of people don't think about when preaching this anti war shit is that there are hundreds of thousands out there that hate America.
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And now, thanks to this unprovoked attack on a sovereign arab nation, now there are hundreds of millions. A few years ago, the majority of the population in most muslim countries held a favorable view of the USA! Bush has manage to turn all those moderates against us in just a couple of years. It's Osamas dream come true. This is exactly what he was trying to accomplish.
Poll shows U.S. isolation: In war's wake, hostility and mistrust
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Originally posted by Hue G. Pness
It has nothing to do with Bush. This has been going on long before Bush Jr. and Bush Sr.
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You couldnt be more wrong. Saddam was our ally until Bush Sr destroyed that relationship. Saddam fought Iran for us, but since America no longer feared the spread of communism, he decided that relationship was no longer valuable.
Saddam consulted with the US before taking military action to settle a border dispute against Kuwait. The US told Saddam in no uncertain terms that we had no opinion on this matter or any arab-arab conflicts. Our opinion on the Kuwait dispute had been just that for 30 years. What changed our policy after Saddam acted was pressure from Saudi Arabia, whom the Bush family was very close to. If it had not been for Bush Sr, Saddam would still be our ally today; an effective obstacle to the spread of radical islam.
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Originally posted by Hue G. Pness
Here is the fun part, they could give a shit if you feel you love them or not, if you hate Bush or not, if you hate the war in Iraq or not. They will still blow you the fuck up along with your kids and themselves if they get the chance. That is thier pure hatred. What else besides hate could encourage someone to walk in to a crowded area full of harmless and inocent women and kids and set off a bomb straped to their chest?
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Frustration. Desperation. Revenge. These people feel they have been pushed so far, had their affairs meddled with by outsiders for so long, had their grievances ignored so completely, that this is the only way they can fight back. We must find a way to diffuse the hatred; and dropping bombs has the undesirable opposite effect (making more of them hate us more). If we do not acknowledge the causes of terrorism, we will never put an end to it. You cannot kill them all. It is a Hydra; for every head you cut off, more will grow. Because of Iraq the number of people who want to see dead american kids has multiplied 10 times. How can anyone believe that makes us safer?
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Originally posted by Hue G. Pness
Man, attempting to destroy a population out of hate disguised under relgious causes. That sounds familure. Funny though, 60 years ago it was ok to fight back when someone tried to pull that shit .
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It is ok to fight back.
Iraq did not attack us, so we are not fighting back.