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Old 09-18-2004, 04:14 AM  
Johny Traffic
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Maybe your honerable feelings of obligation should be toward the better interests of America (and 'the west' in general), and not simply to pander to whatever crazy asshole happens to be sitting in the big chair over here.
Unfortunatly that crazy asshole is your president and was making those decisions, so it want pandering as such (though blair does his fair share of pandering) is was a matter of supporting your elected head or not. We chose to support and I think that was the right decision whatever the outcome of the war.

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You guys probably had the best chance of talking him out of it. I wonder if he would have gone if he really were totally alone? I wonder if we americans would really have allowed him if not for your support? If that's the way you want to phrase it, then IMO you guys let us down. (still not your fault)
I think your right, maybe we did have a chance to talk him out of it, but I dont think so. Becuase of 911 and most of the US population not really understanding the issues and fealing hurt about 911, he could gain popularity for going to war, by missleading his own people, it was his only real chance to do it if he was ever going to do it.

Also If you remember the time, it was virtually the whole of Europe against America, totally for their own reasons, the split was getting bigger between the US and Europe and that isnt healthy. I think the fact that we didnt side with Europe as a whole meant that we could heal the rift much quicker. A very divided Europe and U.S at these times wouldnt be a good thing. I think we had no real choice than to back America whether they were right or wrong.

But that said the sooner you guys get rid of that fucked up idiot the better, there is no love for Bush over here, infact theres not much like for Blair either
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