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Originally posted by galleryseek
Concerning the war in Iraq, few people seem to really ever think about this...
Sure, he did it because it made America "stronger", whether it be from oil control, land control, yadda yadda (pick which you prefer)...
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So you think it is the right of the US to arbitrarily attack other countries for no reason other than becoming an empire?
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However, I think it's SAFE to say that without Saddam, Iraq is probably a better place... I think we can all agree that the guy was a maniac and it is well documented that he has killed thousands upon thousands of his own people and really ruled in peculiar inhumane ways.
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Saddam Hussein killed the Kurds when they attempted to revolt after the US promised the Kurds their assistance, because they are seperatist. The US left them out to dry, and they got owned. Saddam was particularily brutal in preventing those in his country who wanted a theocracy. He didn't want to be another "shah". That means he was suppressing THE VERY PEOPLE IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW WHO ARE SHOOTING AT US SOLDIERS. Learn some history. For the most part, the only Iraqis that Saddam treated poorly are the exact same Iraqis that US forces are shooting and killing. That is, inbetween the constant "thank you America" parades. You think Iraq is better off? Based on what? Maybe ask an Iraqi first.
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Now, a common retort to that would be "Well if America is so thoughtful and considerate, why aren't we helping out all of the other nations in need?" -- Maybe because there's nothing in it for us? Selfish it sounds, but do you see any other countries stepping to the plate and helping other nations in need?
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Tell that to the Canadian Soldiers I'm paying for to clean up the mess you left in Afghanistan. You can thank me after you dismount from your stars and stripes high horse.
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Maybe we just decided "Fuck it, might as well control some land or oil, n' take out a sick twisted bastard causin trouble for everyone" -- whatever we gained out of it should be reward enough, and justification enough for going over there and helping a bad situation? (or at least attempting to)
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Colin Powell in Cairo February 24, 2001:
"He (Saddam Hussein) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbours."
Condoleeza Rice, July 2001:
"We are able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt."
WRONG.
I see that what the millions of Iraqis want doesn't mean shit to you. I guess they are just second class human beings.
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Now keep in mind, I'm going to vote for Kerry simply cause I don't like war and maybe his approach might not be so kill-crazy... I would have never preferred that bush go to war, but I'm looking at it from an angle most people choose not to.
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Hugs and kisses.
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Perhaps they might have had some solid intelligence that saddam was going to do something crazy, maybe they had strong analysts that concluded if Saddam isn't taken out, there would be more bloodshed from his continuing precense than the bloodshed caused from a war.
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WRONG.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...05-tenet_x.htm
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But irregardless, I don't agree with the war, but you can't deny the possibility that maybe he made life better for the iraqi people. If that is the case, I still don't believe it is worth the lives of our soldiers all in the name of property control.
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Western Iraq is in the control of roving gangs of armed militants. The infrastructure is having the very wires that run things like telephone, TV and power ripped out of the ground, picked up by fleets of flatbed trucks and shipped to Jordan.
All these maybes your asking? The facts are out there, none of this shit is a mystery to solve.
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But this is just a thought, please refrain from the ignorant remarks. If you disagree, tell me why and use logic.
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