This is the last time I'll post in this idiotic thread. Stupid people piss me off, and there are too many of them in this thread.
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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
Totally untrue. Most diseases cannot be cured, I don't know where you are getting this from. People with a major disease may live longer due to medicine but the disease will usually end up winning. Which goes back to the original argument that it is more profitable to treat symptoms rather than cure.
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Most diseases can be cured quite easily. In fact, most diseases will even disappear without any treatment (although treatment often speeds up the process). That is a simple fact.
Most people get sick tons of times in their lives, and no big surprise, most often they recover.
Bacteria cause many if not most non-hereditary diseases, and many bacterial infections can be treated with modern medicine. That alone should make it quite clear that modern medicine cures tons of diseases.
People with major diseases often die from them, yes. People have to die from something, after all.
However, many diseases that used to be very deadly can now be treated relatively easily (e.g. syphilis, tbc, etc).
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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
As far as more disease now, I don't know the statistics of all the various diseases throughout history but the major diseases society faces now are reaching an epidemic stage. A hundred years ago 1 in a 100 developed cancer, now it is estimated 1 in 2 will. Why is this? What I find interesting is a hundred years ago 3/4 of the population smoked, now its about a fourth, yet more people are getting cancer. Furthermore, with all the cancer research and so called cancer breakthroughs more people are dying on a percentage basis from cancer than ever. In 1967 157 per 100,000 people died from cancer, in 1992 204 per 100,000 died. Does that sound like progress to you?
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A 100 years ago, most people died before they could even develop cancer and many people didn't have enough healthcare to get cancer diagnosed. Aside from that, things like physical inactivity and obesity are also correlated with cancer.
But let's not forget your blatant lie about smoking. You're trying to make us believe people smoked more a 100 years ago than they do now?
In the US, annual per capita cigarette consumption increased from 54 cigarettes in 1900 to 4,345 cigarettes in 1963 and then decreased to 2,261 in 1998.
Factor in that with smoking and lungcancer, there's a big delay in the effect, and it all pretty much makes sense. The people who are 35-55 now are the most smoking group ever, and not surprisingly, they're dropping off like flies from lung cancer.
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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
Look at diabetes. The Center for Disease Control now estimates 1 out of every 3 Americans born in the year 2000 will develop diabetes.
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That's type 2 diabetes, caused by an unhealthy diet and obesity, you idiot. Or are you trying to blame the fatness of Americans on modern medicine now too?
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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
These two diseases alone make up for more than 60 percent of all medical treatment. Do you really think the medical machine is interested in curing either of these diseases?
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I suspect the figure you just gave is bullshit, something you just made up out of thin air.
Nonetheless, the increase of cancer is caused by the fact that people are getting older and older - because they aren't getting killed by other diseases as much as they used to.
As for the "medical machine" holding back cures... you really are a conspiracy theorist moron. I bet you're sitting behind your computer now wearing a tin foil hat to keep the government from reading your brain waves, right?
The idea that the millions of scientists that are all working on cures for diseases are actually all part of a big secret conspiracy to keep drug sales up is so disgustingly stupid that I won't even respond to it.
Just promise me one thing... if you ever get sick, please, do not visit a doctor
Oh, and here's a little graphical illustration of how much modern medicine sucks:
Life Expectancy in the 1900s