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Originally posted by Trixie
As a woman, I know that most men love to stereotype women as beings desparate for commitment. Those of you who think that are fucking deluded.
It's astonishing how many guys cannot grasp the concept that you don't want to marry them, you don't want to have their kids . . . and 49 out of 50 times do not even want them to spend the fucking night.
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But that's simply not true. Of all the women I've been with - quite a few - all wanted more, and only one didn't immediately want a full-fledged relationship.
On the other hand, a fair amount decided within weeks that I was "the one" they'd spend the rest of their life with.
I don't know you, so you may be the exception to the rule, but that's what my personal experience tells me
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Originally posted by 2HousePlague
Hey punkworld, wassup, remember me from the Rand discussion? Yeah.
Anyway, I'm at the office (working) and my lady (Eliza) IMs this thread, tells me I gotta give a male voice to the otherwise wholly abstract (never gonna meet him/doesn't exist) ideal that is being described here. [Nice set-up for myself, eh!?]
The truth is, YES, I am grateful for someone in my life whose ideas and ideals I respect enough to make my own. I'm not wanting for opinions on ANYTHING -- believe me. But, I think part of this crazy experience called life ought to be striving to improve yourself, to triumph over the impulses that keep us lazy and self-serving. [This should begin to sound familair from our last thread-conversation]. Sometimes, the ideas that inspire us to "more" come from within ourselves. But sometimes, amazin people come into our lives, bringing ideas and ideals with them we never would have found or sought otherwise. Thanks, Eliza for being not only my inspiration, but the bringer of worthy standards for me to live up to.
j-
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Well, I think there is a large difference between what you are describing and women actually actively trying to change men (unless ofcourse your lady has brainwashed you to the extent that you now only see "her version" of the events).
There's nothing wrong with being influenced by a person, or doing something because of someone. There is, however, something wrong with actively trying to change someone. The latter thing is what many women do, and what I consider completely reprehensible.
(ofcourse, Rand would disagree with me here, and say that you should be your own man completely, not even changing for someone out of your own will)