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Cassie · 08-24-2004, 12:04 PM

any producer that wants to charge for this should be blacklisted and the producer should be outted publically, indefinately.

for those who have bought this content, i would say remove it. i know it may be costly now but in the end, you will be thankful that it only cost you the pennies or so and prevented a potential, federal suit being filed against you.

lets be honest here, most models cost about $300 to $500 per shoot, per ability (meaning solo/hc/fetish and the price is adjusted accordingly) per 8 hour day (in some instances 12 hrs). i would know cause i use to shoot models. the average producer sells this content for $75 to $100 (maybe more but not much less) per scene or however it is broken down (that is all up to the producer).

to make the money that was paid to the model back takes next to no time (depending if the producer shoots well and has traffic). to charge a customer for documents that will protect both the producer and the customer (more for the customer's piece of mind) is absurd and should be considered criminal.

my point is, stay away from producers who just won't compromise.....period. if they are not willing to give you comfort in knowing that the content you bought is safe, then they obviously do not need the money all that badly. what's to say the producer doesn't close up shop, or the place where all his/her records are kept doesn't catch on fire or even better, what if said producer drops dead. you spend 10k on content and now that company/producer is no where to be found......

and the documents are where????? what proof can you show????

this is why there are agreements signed between company/producer and customer. as long as you have a signature, sending model releases and ids should not be a task.

this new 2257 law will separate the true producers from the fly by night, wanna be's who think they have the power to do whatever they want. wait and see. just as 3rd party processors have fallen, so will these producers who say "my way or the highway".

08-24-2004, 12:04 PM
Cassie Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 3,139	any producer that wants to charge for this should be blacklisted and the producer should be outted publically, indefinately. for those who have bought this content, i would say remove it. i know it may be costly now but in the end, you will be thankful that it only cost you the pennies or so and prevented a potential, federal suit being filed against you. lets be honest here, most models cost about $300 to $500 per shoot, per ability (meaning solo/hc/fetish and the price is adjusted accordingly) per 8 hour day (in some instances 12 hrs). i would know cause i use to shoot models. the average producer sells this content for $75 to $100 (maybe more but not much less) per scene or however it is broken down (that is all up to the producer). to make the money that was paid to the model back takes next to no time (depending if the producer shoots well and has traffic). to charge a customer for documents that will protect both the producer and the customer (more for the customer's piece of mind) is absurd and should be considered criminal. my point is, stay away from producers who just won't compromise.....period. if they are not willing to give you comfort in knowing that the content you bought is safe, then they obviously do not need the money all that badly. what's to say the producer doesn't close up shop, or the place where all his/her records are kept doesn't catch on fire or even better, what if said producer drops dead. you spend 10k on content and now that company/producer is no where to be found...... and the documents are where????? what proof can you show???? this is why there are agreements signed between company/producer and customer. as long as you have a signature, sending model releases and ids should not be a task. this new 2257 law will separate the true producers from the fly by night, wanna be's who think they have the power to do whatever they want. wait and see. just as 3rd party processors have fallen, so will these producers who say "my way or the highway". __________________ ICQ: 309756847 ] Last edited by Cassie; 08-24-2004 at 12:06 PM..