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crockett · 08-11-2004, 06:52 AM

wow I'm truly amazed that their are just as many people on GFY that are out of the loop in how TGP's work..

I think one of the biggest things some of the people calling wolf here are missing is this...

Say I have a site that is set at 70% skim as my sites are. I send 70% of my hits to galleries and 30% to traffic trades. What I believe some of you unaware of how TGP's work are missing. Is most guys open the galleries and trades in a new window. So just because you do send a surfer to another page, doesn't mean you lost him.

He may click around on your trade and come back and click more on your site, therefore giving you twice the benefit of more traffic and clicks to galleries. On top of this, TGP surfers know that if they click a thumb and get a trade, they can continue to click that thumb and they will eventually get to that gallery. It's not like the thumb is 100% blind clicks, the surfer will see the gallery if he clicks the thumb a few times.. So calling this content theft is way off..

I skim traffic and I play with google a bit on my TGPs.. I will give you a example of both sources of traffic across one of my sites..

I pull roughly 3k a day to this one site via SE traffic, that traffic is generally has a productivity of around 3.5-4.0% meaning that traffic produces 12k a day to either trades or galleries (if you take out 30% sent to trades that's somewhere around 9k day going to galleries from my SE traffic)..

Now on that very site I traffic trade, it's not a big site but has roughly 25k a day in traffic trades.. which has a rough estimate of 2.0- 2.5% productivity. Meaning that 25k turns into 50k in clicks to both galleries and trades. If you then take out the 30% as above for trades that leaves me with 35k going to galleries and potential sales.

Now my math may be off just a bit but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that 35k to galleries is better than 9k.. we are talking almost 4 times the amount of traffic per day produced, by skimming on my site. Now I will agree SE traffic is of course better than traffic traded on TGP's but face the facts, their is a limited amount of search traffic out there and a small percentage of guys have that wired up. However traffic coming from traffic trading is almost an endless supply.

08-11-2004, 06:52 AM
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	wow I'm truly amazed that their are just as many people on GFY that are out of the loop in how TGP's work.. I think one of the biggest things some of the people calling wolf here are missing is this... Say I have a site that is set at 70% skim as my sites are. I send 70% of my hits to galleries and 30% to traffic trades. What I believe some of you unaware of how TGP's work are missing. Is most guys open the galleries and trades in a new window. So just because you do send a surfer to another page, doesn't mean you lost him. He may click around on your trade and come back and click more on your site, therefore giving you twice the benefit of more traffic and clicks to galleries. On top of this, TGP surfers know that if they click a thumb and get a trade, they can continue to click that thumb and they will eventually get to that gallery. It's not like the thumb is 100% blind clicks, the surfer will see the gallery if he clicks the thumb a few times.. So calling this content theft is way off.. I skim traffic and I play with google a bit on my TGPs.. I will give you a example of both sources of traffic across one of my sites.. I pull roughly 3k a day to this one site via SE traffic, that traffic is generally has a productivity of around 3.5-4.0% meaning that traffic produces 12k a day to either trades or galleries (if you take out 30% sent to trades that's somewhere around 9k day going to galleries from my SE traffic).. Now on that very site I traffic trade, it's not a big site but has roughly 25k a day in traffic trades.. which has a rough estimate of 2.0- 2.5% productivity. Meaning that 25k turns into 50k in clicks to both galleries and trades. If you then take out the 30% as above for trades that leaves me with 35k going to galleries and potential sales. Now my math may be off just a bit but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that 35k to galleries is better than 9k.. we are talking almost 4 times the amount of traffic per day produced, by skimming on my site. Now I will agree SE traffic is of course better than traffic traded on TGP's but face the facts, their is a limited amount of search traffic out there and a small percentage of guys have that wired up. However traffic coming from traffic trading is almost an endless supply. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator. Last edited by crockett; 08-11-2004 at 06:54 AM..