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Webby · 08-02-2004, 04:48 PM

jade_dragon:

Well.. I'm not gonna get off my ass and get a copy of some US telegram :-) And... there is one MASSIVE load of other stuff that would take a long time to recite here - anyways, this is not, least in majority, a "nice face" of the US.

To keep to the incident which you asked - this was a delaration of invasion by a US backed rogue government in Nicaragua who decided they wanted to invade Costa Rica and started massing troops on the borders. (Costa Rica has never showed any agression towards them)

The immediate response to that was - within 45 mins of this statement there were fighter aircraft landing in Costa Rica from several neighboring countries acting to defend. Numerous countries pledged support and arms - Canada, China, Finland, UK, France, Germany, Russia - there were many countries involved.

The reason for much of this "instant support" was probably that Costa Rica was regarded, still probably is, as a "model of democracy in action" and this needed defending.

The background was that these countries also sent communications to Nicaragua to back down immediately, else they will make them back down. They did.

When this small drama was over, it became clear the actual substance of support from the US was a telegram - enough to raise a smile and be of note :-)

There is a massive load of "pre" story behind this going back to the 1950's when the US decided to just overturn the then, democratically elected government of Guatamala and install a puppet leader who was resposible for many killings. They then lied to relatives of US folks in Guatamala at that time who were killed in mass graves and told them "we have nothing to do with this". However, papers released, probably by accident from US archives are marked "not for public distrubution" and tell the fuller story. Guatamala has still never recovered from these times and is still a place not to be.

This initial action to overturn a democratically elected government had implications in the Latin American region and from that point spread "actions" in neighboring countries that lasted about 30 years and killing many thousands. The Oliver North saga is just a small part of this - there is a LOT more involvement by the US and it's not a pretty picture and has nothing to do with "our values", "freedoms" and all that nice stuff - reality is somewhat different.

08-02-2004, 04:48 PM
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	jade_dragon: Well.. I'm not gonna get off my ass and get a copy of some US telegram :-) And... there is one MASSIVE load of other stuff that would take a long time to recite here - anyways, this is not, least in majority, a "nice face" of the US. To keep to the incident which you asked - this was a delaration of invasion by a US backed rogue government in Nicaragua who decided they wanted to invade Costa Rica and started massing troops on the borders. (Costa Rica has never showed any agression towards them) The immediate response to that was - within 45 mins of this statement there were fighter aircraft landing in Costa Rica from several neighboring countries acting to defend. Numerous countries pledged support and arms - Canada, China, Finland, UK, France, Germany, Russia - there were many countries involved. The reason for much of this "instant support" was probably that Costa Rica was regarded, still probably is, as a "model of democracy in action" and this needed defending. The background was that these countries also sent communications to Nicaragua to back down immediately, else they will make them back down. They did. When this small drama was over, it became clear the actual substance of support from the US was a telegram - enough to raise a smile and be of note :-) There is a massive load of "pre" story behind this going back to the 1950's when the US decided to just overturn the then, democratically elected government of Guatamala and install a puppet leader who was resposible for many killings. They then lied to relatives of US folks in Guatamala at that time who were killed in mass graves and told them "we have nothing to do with this". However, papers released, probably by accident from US archives are marked "not for public distrubution" and tell the fuller story. Guatamala has still never recovered from these times and is still a place not to be. This initial action to overturn a democratically elected government had implications in the Latin American region and from that point spread "actions" in neighboring countries that lasted about 30 years and killing many thousands. The Oliver North saga is just a small part of this - there is a LOT more involvement by the US and it's not a pretty picture and has nothing to do with "our values", "freedoms" and all that nice stuff - reality is somewhat different.