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M: I would be willing to sacrifice my life to track down the people that killed 3,000 people on our soil.
O: Al Qeada was given refuge by the Taliban.
M: But we didn?t go after them?did we?
O: We removed the Taliban and killed three quarters of Al Qeada.
M: That?s why the Taliban are still killing our soldiers there.
O: OK, well look you cant kill everybody. You wouldn?t have invaded Afghanistan?you wouldn?t have invaded Afghanistan, would you?
M: No, I would have gone after the man that killed 3,000 people.
O: How?
M: As Richard Clarke says, our special forces were prohibited for two months from going to the area that we believed Osama was?
O: Why was that?
M: That?s my question.
O: Because Pakistan didn?t want its territory of sovereignty violated.
M: Not his was in Afghanistan, on the border, we didn?t go there. He got a two month head start.
O: Alright, you would not have removed the Taliban. You would not have removed that government?
M: No, unless it is a threat to us.
O: Any government? Hitler, in Germany, not a threat to us the beginning but over there executing people all day long?you would have let him go?
M: That?s not true. Hitler with Japan, attacked the United States.
O: Before?from 33-until 41 he wasn?t an imminent threat to the United States.
M: There?s a lot of things we should have done.
O: You wouldn?t have removed him.
M: I wouldn?t have even allowed him to come to power.
O: That was a preemption from Michael Moore?you would have invaded.
M: If we?d done our job, you want to get into to talking about what happened before WWI, woah, I?m trying to stop this war right now.
O: I know you are but?
M: Are you against that? Stopping this war?
O: No we cannot leave Iraq right now, we have to?
M: So you would sacrifice your child to secure Fallujah? I want to hear you say that.
O: I would sacrifice myself?
M: Your child?Its Bush sending the children there.
O: I would sacrifice myself.
M: You and I don?t go to war, because we?re too old?
O: Because if we back down, there will be more deaths and you know it.
M: Say ?I Bill O?Reilly would sacrifice my child to secure Fallujah?
O: I?m not going to say what you say, you?re a, that?s ridiculous
M: You don?t believe that. Why should Bush sacrifice the children of people across America for this?
O: Look it?s a worldwide terrorism?I know that escapes you?
M: Wait a minute, terrorism? Iraq?
O: Yes. There are terrorist in Iraq.
M: Oh really? So Iraq now is responsible for the terrorism here?
O: Iraq aided terrorist?don?t you know anything about any of that?
M: So you?re saying Iraq is responsible for what?
O: I?m saying that Saddam Hussein aided all day long.
M: You?re not going to get me to defend Saddam Hussein.
O: I?m not? You?re his biggest defender in the media.
M: Now come on.
O: Look, if you were running he would still be sitting there.
M: How do you know that?
O: If you were running the country, he?d still be sitting there.
M: How do you know that?
O: You wouldn?t have removed him.
M: Look let me tell you something in the 1990s look at all the brutal dictators that were removed. Things were done, you take any of a number of countries whether its Eastern Europe, the people rose up. South Africa the whole world boycotted---
O: When Reagan was building up the arms, you were against that.
M: And the dictators were gone. Building up the arms did not cause the fall of Eastern Europe.
O: Of course it did, it bankrupted the Soviet Union and then it collapsed.
M: The people rose up.
O: why? Because they went bankrupt.
M: the same way we did in our country, the way we had our revolution. People rose up?
O: Alright alright.
M:--that?s how you, let me ask you this question.
O: One more.
M: How do you deliver democracy to a country? You don?t do it down the barrel of a gun. That?s not how you deliver it.
O: You give the people some kind of self-determination, which they never would have had under Saddam?
M: Why didn?t they rise up?
O: Because they couldn?t, it was a Gestapo-led place where they got their heads cut off?
M: well that?s true in many countries throughout the world__
O: It is, it?s a shame?
M:--and you know what people have done, they?ve risen up. You can do it in a number of ways . You can do it our way through a violent revolution, which we won, the French did it that way. You can do it by boycotting South Africa, they overthrew the dictator there. There?s many ways?
O: I?m glad we?ve had this discussion because it just shows you that I see the world my way, you see the world your way, alright?and the audience is watching us here and they can decide who is right and who is wrong and that?s the fair way to do it. Right?
M: Right, I would not sacrifice my child to secure Fallujah and you would?
O: I would sacrifice myself.
M: You wouldn?t send another child, another parents child to Fallujah, would you? You would sacrifice your life to secure Fallujah?
O: I would.
M: Can we sign him up? Can we sign him up right now?
O: That?s right.
M: Where?s the recruiter?
O: You?d love to get rid of me.
M: No I don?t want?I want you to live. I want you to live.
O: I appreciate that. Michael Moore everybody. There he is?
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