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Sjayne · 12-12-2001, 06:15 AM

oh boy,you have started me off now.

Firstly..geeze CNN is late with this story. We reported this in our newspaper (my hubby is a jouralist) early last week.

It has a lot to do with the fact that since Nelson Mandela has retired, they have gone from having one of the most noble men the world has ever known as a president to having someone who if I met I would give a good slapping.

Myself, as an AIDS educator, have often been left in tears by the incredible things this man has said in relation to AIDS. Firstly, he says that HIV is not connected to AIDS. Then he makes a statement that he thinks that the drugs people take for HIV actually *Cause* AIDS.

South Africa is a country made up largely of great people. They have over the last century seen some very bad times..particuarly , of course, the native population.

A lot of people here in the UK were heavily involved in the fight against apartheid. I was too young but my husband was so involved that a couple years ago I had to pick my jaw off the floor when Nelson Mandela's personal secretaty called our house.

Now apartheid is over and the same population is being crippled with an epedemic we could never imagine. Read that article (which is shamefully low on background) - 1 in 8 people have HIV/AIDS. Just imagine that for a second.

These aren't like western people living with AIDS. No, these people are DYING of AIDS. They are shunned, left to die. Also, its not just adults. Those 1 in 8 include babies an kids.

They don't have the drugs to keep them alive. There are various reasons for this..part of the reason was that the companies that own the paten on these drugs refused (until they were recently beat in court) to allow their drugs to be made as cut rate generic versions that could be affordable for South Africa.

A statistic I just read...Average life expectancy in South Africa is expected to fall from about 60 years to around 40 years between 1998 and 2008.

Also, keep in mind the poverty these people were forced into by apartheid. They also had massivly lower level of education than the white South Africans.

A mixture of the two no only leads to ignorance of the facts about HIV/AIDS but also increases the number of people in the sex trade. Condoms are not a part of their culture and even if a woman wants to use one she isn't in the position on make demands.

This infant rape thing is a truly horrid outgrowth of this situation. They are told that if they have sex with a virgin they will be cured of AIDS. In the very least its a way to avoid it. Infant rape happens in all parts of the world..just not at that rate in such a truly tragic atmosphere.

On a personal note...we had my husband's best friend brutly murdered in South Africa about four years ago. She was a transexual who was at a gay bar. She came out, was cornered..beaten to an inch of her life and then had a gun put to the back of her head.

So, I have no great love for the country but I would very much like to visit. The crime levels just scare me too much at the moment.

My heart truly bleeds for the AIDS victims of South Africa...victims of a political system.

12-12-2001, 06:15 AM
Sjayne Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,182	oh boy,you have started me off now. Firstly..geeze CNN is late with this story. We reported this in our newspaper (my hubby is a jouralist) early last week. It has a lot to do with the fact that since Nelson Mandela has retired, they have gone from having one of the most noble men the world has ever known as a president to having someone who if I met I would give a good slapping. Myself, as an AIDS educator, have often been left in tears by the incredible things this man has said in relation to AIDS. Firstly, he says that HIV is not connected to AIDS. Then he makes a statement that he thinks that the drugs people take for HIV actually *Cause* AIDS. South Africa is a country made up largely of great people. They have over the last century seen some very bad times..particuarly , of course, the native population. A lot of people here in the UK were heavily involved in the fight against apartheid. I was too young but my husband was so involved that a couple years ago I had to pick my jaw off the floor when Nelson Mandela's personal secretaty called our house. Now apartheid is over and the same population is being crippled with an epedemic we could never imagine. Read that article (which is shamefully low on background) - 1 in 8 people have HIV/AIDS. Just imagine that for a second. These aren't like western people living with AIDS. No, these people are DYING of AIDS. They are shunned, left to die. Also, its not just adults. Those 1 in 8 include babies an kids. They don't have the drugs to keep them alive. There are various reasons for this..part of the reason was that the companies that own the paten on these drugs refused (until they were recently beat in court) to allow their drugs to be made as cut rate generic versions that could be affordable for South Africa. A statistic I just read...Average life expectancy in South Africa is expected to fall from about 60 years to around 40 years between 1998 and 2008. Also, keep in mind the poverty these people were forced into by apartheid. They also had massivly lower level of education than the white South Africans. A mixture of the two no only leads to ignorance of the facts about HIV/AIDS but also increases the number of people in the sex trade. Condoms are not a part of their culture and even if a woman wants to use one she isn't in the position on make demands. This infant rape thing is a truly horrid outgrowth of this situation. They are told that if they have sex with a virgin they will be cured of AIDS. In the very least its a way to avoid it. Infant rape happens in all parts of the world..just not at that rate in such a truly tragic atmosphere. On a personal note...we had my husband's best friend brutly murdered in South Africa about four years ago. She was a transexual who was at a gay bar. She came out, was cornered..beaten to an inch of her life and then had a gun put to the back of her head. So, I have no great love for the country but I would very much like to visit. The crime levels just scare me too much at the moment. My heart truly bleeds for the AIDS victims of South Africa...victims of a political system.