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Old 12-07-2001, 01:25 AM  
Incognito
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: RU
Posts: 371
Quote:
Originally posted by Lensman:
I think the point here is, if you send a surfer to an Adult.com program, any old cookie is overwritten with a new one and you get credit.

Simple enough?


Exactly.
That's the only way. In case I understand You right.

Let me shed some light on the problem.

The problem DOES REALLY EXIST and any of You can easily check it.

When You click SIGNUP on any join page and go on Ibill's join page You may view source of it just like any other page. It's a secret why almost noone tries it.

And yes in fact there's a string there:
INPUT TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="REVSHARERID" VALUE="revshareID"

So You may check it all pretty easy - which ID is there.

The fact is that...if ibill signup page is faced with a choice of a cookie ID and a browser string ID (the normal way) it prefers by default the cookie ID.

Been clinically tested.

And Yes, if Hun will imagesourse or load in a ZERO frame cookies for a certain paysite on Ibill all those surfers signups through normal AD links will be credited to him.

Unless the paysite prevents it in a very very simple way Lensman described.
I.E. overwrites the cookie from Ibill once again on a signup page and sets the correct revshare ID value from a string value.

I.E. a certain script should be installed (that's how we work for example) which should check which ID is correct and request a cookie from ibill for that paysite for CORRECT ID simply once again.

Like someone of You said "lets keep it in the family" I should say that Russian family of webmasters has been aware of that crap for over 3 monthes or so right now (I even wrote an email to You Lens suggesting to exchange some experience couple of weeks ago or so also because I was hoping that if I am not able to persuade Ibill to correct that bug - You might be able to persuade them).
As I mentioned we have been aware of it like 3 monthes because a certain partnership programm of ours has been cheated for some time (like couple of weeks or less) that way. I.E. webmasters who run toplists started loading those cookies from a ZERO frame and thus stealing signups from other webmasters. When we noticed it we have corrected the problem and from that time it does not affect our sites.

However, there's another problem with this bug You dont know and discuss yet.Clinical studies have shown it to be even more dangerous than just signups stealing. That's why I'd keep it in my family.

Ibill has been notified by us about this problem as long as two monthes ago and again couple of weeks ago and have promised us to correct it as soon as possible (basicly because of the second problem I mentioned).

Well as I said , we have a solution ready and by the way - unlike You greedy , we dont mind sharing.

So if anyone's paysites are on Ibill and You dont have the solution yet and it needs help with this subject and needs scripts to correct it - just contact me through my secret incognito email

[email protected]

P.S. Absolutely no problem exists if the partnership program uses ONLY the cookie link to track signups. Because if all webmasters send traffic via cookie links - it works fine. It just fucks up when there's a choice between a cookie and a normal way.
P.P.S. With the exception of those certain partnership programms on ibill which know about the problem and overwrite the cookie like we do and those which work with cookie links only, ALL PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS are being affected by this bug independent of how big, known and cool they are.


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