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boneprone · 12-04-2001, 12:41 AM

Once again Boneprone knows what really happened and I can tell you neither Shaw or the Fly were at fault. It was just a HUGE misunderstanding.

Ok. Here's what really happened. And it was when Derek was the customer support guy not Tonda back then. Tonda handled Fly's account after he left because he was still banned.

First of all, the same exact thing that happened to the Fly happend to me. However I handled it in a cool manner, called and talked it over with Derek and Brad and everything blew over ok. Fly's approach was a bit different, which may have resulted in the outcome.

At the time Amateur-Beaver had 2 different pay per click programs. One was the "text link" pay per click program, and the other was the "click a pic" program. The pay per click on the pic program payed more.

Many of us used both programs. Both programs had different linking codes. I say again, many of us used both programs! The Pic and the text program.

Here's what happened. They looked at some sites looking for cheaters of the programs.

They noticed on my site I was pushing the pic program, but didnt realize I was also pushing the text link program. They wrote me and told me I was in violation of the terms because I was not sending traffic via the pic as required by the rules.

I calmly called Derek and told him hey, I am obeying the rules and I am using the pics as required.
We looked over the site together as I was on the phone, and he said go to the middle of the page, and that there was a link going to the program with no PIC! I told him correct! The reason was because that link was for their other program, it was their text link program, and that was one of the text links.

He talked it over with brad, and we all chatted about it, and all was cool. they apoligized I thanked them and that was the end. I became good friends with Derek after that and later became good friends with Greg.
So all was cool.

Then the next month The Fly writes me and tells me his situation. It was the exact same situation I had gone through. I told him what to do, and it would be cool.

Fly seemed to be a bit more aggressive than I. Lets just say he wasnt as calm when dealing with the problem, and this is what affected his outcome.

Sometimes when dealing with customers, the person who calmly calls and explains in a freindly manner does better than the person in the same situation in an aggressive angry manner.

So you see no one was really at fault. It was a huge misunderstanding, but just like the attitudes fueled on this thread, the tempers were so high by this time it was eaiser just to cut the ties off and go separate ways.

Fly moved on, and I stayed with Shaw for months later being payed on time with no problems. It was just a misunderstaning that took two cool heads to fix, and in the long run it payed off.

Moral of the story is, Neither Shaw or The Fly are crooks, but hot heads that dont like fingers pointed at them.

And thats the bottom line cause Boneprone said so.

12-04-2001, 12:41 AM
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Once again Boneprone knows what really happened and I can tell you neither Shaw or the Fly were at fault. It was just a HUGE misunderstanding. Ok. Here's what really happened. And it was when Derek was the customer support guy not Tonda back then. Tonda handled Fly's account after he left because he was still banned. First of all, the same exact thing that happened to the Fly happend to me. However I handled it in a cool manner, called and talked it over with Derek and Brad and everything blew over ok. Fly's approach was a bit different, which may have resulted in the outcome. At the time Amateur-Beaver had 2 different pay per click programs. One was the "text link" pay per click program, and the other was the "click a pic" program. The pay per click on the pic program payed more. Many of us used both programs. Both programs had different linking codes. I say again, many of us used both programs! The Pic and the text program. Here's what happened. They looked at some sites looking for cheaters of the programs. They noticed on my site I was pushing the pic program, but didnt realize I was also pushing the text link program. They wrote me and told me I was in violation of the terms because I was not sending traffic via the pic as required by the rules. I calmly called Derek and told him hey, I am obeying the rules and I am using the pics as required. We looked over the site together as I was on the phone, and he said go to the middle of the page, and that there was a link going to the program with no PIC! I told him correct! The reason was because that link was for their other program, it was their text link program, and that was one of the text links. He talked it over with brad, and we all chatted about it, and all was cool. they apoligized I thanked them and that was the end. I became good friends with Derek after that and later became good friends with Greg. So all was cool. Then the next month The Fly writes me and tells me his situation. It was the exact same situation I had gone through. I told him what to do, and it would be cool. Fly seemed to be a bit more aggressive than I. Lets just say he wasnt as calm when dealing with the problem, and this is what affected his outcome. Sometimes when dealing with customers, the person who calmly calls and explains in a freindly manner does better than the person in the same situation in an aggressive angry manner. So you see no one was really at fault. It was a huge misunderstanding, but just like the attitudes fueled on this thread, the tempers were so high by this time it was eaiser just to cut the ties off and go separate ways. Fly moved on, and I stayed with Shaw for months later being payed on time with no problems. It was just a misunderstaning that took two cool heads to fix, and in the long run it payed off. Moral of the story is, Neither Shaw or The Fly are crooks, but hot heads that dont like fingers pointed at them. And thats the bottom line cause Boneprone said so.