Apology or what it seems is accepted...
But for EVERY ONE else thinking the same thing.... I understand so here are some poitns in my defence!
Teen Angel, I have no personal beef with you, but I also think that it is a pretty fucked up thing to do to come in here spamming your $2 banners ...
Let's understand something here ... Some of us support our families with web design ... we are professionals in both quality and work ethics ...
<font face="arial" color"red="> As I do... i do not have any other job and do this full time myself....</font>
1. Just because you got a copy of Photoshop off of Morpheus, and fooled around in it enough to make something that closely resmebles a banner, does not make you a web designer by any means ...
<font face="arial" color"red="> No I went and Did a degree in graphic design at college here on the GOld Coast, purchased everythign I use and am completely legit</font>
2. $2.50 for a banner ... GET FUCKING REAL !!!
That is the BIGGEST slap in the face to all of us supporting our families off of this, and is definately NOT going to earn you any graphics designer friends ...
<font face="arial" color"red="> $2.50 is for a static 120x60 button! Obviously the prices increase... But you are forgetting somethign major! I LIVE IN AUSTALIA WHERE whatever I get paid in US double by the time it goes into my account... therefor I am able to sell them cheaply in US dollars. I too am surviving off this money so I don't see how this makes me any different to you????? </font>
3. Generally speaking, most designers time is worth $100 an hour for original artwork ... so unless you are putting out a banner every 2 minutes, you are making yourself a photoshop crackwhore! If you are any good at all, like I have heard it suggested, you are ripping yourself off, as well as making it virtually IMPOSSIBLE for us web designers to earn a living !
<font face="arial" color"red="> Yes as I said before my money double by the time it gets to me and yes I am STILL dong it cheaply... as you said... everyone needs to survive.. It is called competition.. </font>
I do not like pissing on anybody, it is just not in my nature, and especially don't like it when the pissee is female, but I really feel strongly that this CUT THROAT web design has to stop ...
The average "cost" to assemble an entry level domestic automobile (such as a FORD TAURUS, or CHEVY CAVALIER) is less than $10,000 ... but what would happen if CHEVY decided to lower it's price on the cavalier to $9,995 ???
<font face="arial" color"red="> Then that is called competition and is the way EVERYTHING works.... SUPPLY AND DEMAND - Economics. There are people who believe if they spend more they get a better quality... so they would be the ones spending the extra $5 to get what they believe is "Better"....There is a whole world out there and I am sure there is enough work to go around.</font>
<font face="arial" color"red="> Anyway you are probably all going to have a field day with all of that... but I wanted to say something in my defence... I WILL NEVER SPAM AGAIN.... I PROMISE PROMISE PROMISE...
It seems that the problem is not only with the spamming though but prices..... But Pricing I don't think I need to apologise for.
Baddog did tell me that this was a great BBS... so I would like to continue here(minus the spamming of course) if you will let me.... (puppydog face)
<h1><font face="arial" color"red="> I APOLOGISE</font></h1>
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