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Old 06-30-2004, 06:00 AM  
Nathan
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Originally posted by Greg B
http://www.policestate21.com/

If you thought 'Fahrenheit 911' had some facts you have gotta see Dave VonKleist's website and documentary with banned footage and downloadable trailers and clips and pics.

I heard him on KPFKfm ( www.kpfk.org ) and couldn't believe my ears. Then I saw the footage.

Also www.cosmicpenguin.com

You can't argue with the pics and vids.
Did you see the full DVD or just judge from what is on the website?! The vids are _TINY_ the pics are _TINY_. How can you judge on that?!

1) "the pod" - the plane is flying rather fast, and no single steady camera footage exists. The pic there showing "the pod" could just as well be a simple shadow or grain-problem from the video.

2) "this huge explosion" - uhm, I do not see a huge explosion and never heard of one, without seeing footage of that, its a useless pic and comment.

3) (plane 125ftx155ft fit in 16ft hole) - easy, you tilt it at just around 30° the plane hitting the pentagon easily causes only a small whole in the outside and then crashes in the middle of the pentagon and go up in flames. The plane did not start long ago, it is FULL a fuel, it burns like HELL and shit melts. Reports have stated that peices of the plane were found melted into the pentagon debris.

4) (bright flash) - what a load of crap. The flash is not BEFORE the impact, it is RIGHT ON/SHORTLY AFTER IMPACT. You go and fly an airline jet into a building and not cause a flash right on impact. Its totally normal, there is all kinds of wiring/installations in the floors of a highrise, they will without a doubt cause flashes/exploisions on high-vilocity impacts of such big objects.

5) (pancake collapse) - I have no clue what that is? anyone have any idea?

6) (wreckage on lawn) - The plane did not crash ON THE FUCKING LAWN it crashed INSIDE The building taking parts of the outside wall with it, the crater is _INSIDE_ the pentagon.

7) (no windows) - People are BLIND, especially when there is a plane, in the morning, with low sun, flying at probably like 300mph into a friggin building. They see it for 2 seconds and claim it had no windows? These reports were all made SECONDS before the impact.

8) (reports of bombs & explosions) - There were no REPORTS OF BOMBS AND EXPLOSIONS when the tours collapsed. People said it SOUNDED like a bomb/explosion, especially when the reports specifically say ("Do you think thsi was a bomb?") ... Well DUH!? Like spanky part 2 said already, when a building collapses like the WTC did, this is not going to happen QUIETLY. its a load thing. It did not happen slowly, main beams cracked in the WTC causing the start of a collapse. Go and try breaking a beam like that without causing a load bang ;)

9) (exit 3rd ring) - The _NOSE OF THE PLANE_ hit the inner wall of the 3rd ring causing the hole, nothing else!
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