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nickd · 04-01-2001, 05:30 PM

This thread is very interesting and I had to post my opinion about it.

First of all let me say that I think TheHun has the right to do whatever he wants on his site, he wants to ban a freehost or a sponsor, that is his business and everyone should respect that. Even though I respect TheHun's choice to band ARS, I however strongly disagree with his motivations.

TheHun claims that ARS and other sites using chain consoles are giving the adult industry a bad name and that consoles are killing the economy and so on. In my opinion, this is not true. The reason why ARS, cyber erotica, cen and most big sponsors added exit consoles is because they had to in order to generate enough sales to keep the business rolling. Convertion rates and recurrings have been dropping and the huge competition is one of the reason why as TheHun says, but the main is reason is , sorry to say that, but TheHun himself.

His site is freeloaders heaven, hardcore, mature, teen,lesbian, voyeur, amateur, black, inter -race and even bestiality (sad but true) pics and videos are available for free! Very easy to navigate and a huge archive is available of everything freeloaders have always wanted which in my personal opinion makes it the hugest, cleanest and most nuisable adulte site in the porn business. In some some way , TheHun is the Napster of porn.

TheHun claims that his site is not as good as a paysite and that he's basically just a link site helping others. These 2 statements are false. There are more pics and videos on his site than needed to satisfy a big majority of free loaders on the net. And on top of that there is barely advertising on TheHun or in the galleries he lists. Most banners used on the site and on galleries are old regular banners which pull the less. Even pay sites are almost harder to surf than the hun, just sign up for a big pay site and you will see a directory of links to content packages with ads and stuff.

Link sites are good for the industry, but TheHun isnt one. If you look at Tommys-Bookmarks, you will see big ads, blind links in a good manner, enter pages with ads, top referer lists, link trades and free previews on many sites...This is perfect and thats how it should be. PersianKitty is also an awesome site and so many others. There is a very big difference between a link site and TheHun.

Free porn is good and will always be there? I agree with TheHun on this but again there is a big difference between offering a sample and giving away everything for free without any hassle. Everyone knows the company Tide which sells products to wash your clothes?. They sent me a sample of their product by mail a long time ago, my girfriend tried it and liked it. We remember the brand name and it was good avertising. But lets say Tide would start to send me a sample every week forever? Do you think I would actually pay for the product? Or maybe pay for another laundry detergent jsut because it might be a littlle better? And how others companies could sell their laundry detergent if Tide gives everything away for free? Sure Tide would get a huge exposure, lots of friends etc..and would probably still be able to make money with a the publicity you know. But wouldnt it affect the whole industry of laundry detergents? You dont think its a good example? Then how about someone open a sex shop with a free section that offers everything people need, but with also a pay section with some more cool stuff, sure some people would pay but most people would just get their freebies(actually everything being sold in other sex shops) and leave. The whole sex shop industry would be in big trouble dont you think? What I'm trying to say here is that the "new" industry(internet) and the old industry are basically the same. If you want to sell something don't give it for free. The only big difference is that on the net, you can give people free stuff without having to actually pay for this stuff. Tide or sex shops cant do that. No wonder why NASDAQ shows such low numbers. Everyone on the net is giving everything for free causing real companies to go bankcrupcy because they cant sell anything anymore.

The fact is that the more porn the surfers will get, the more greedy they will get, the more they will get used to the fact that they dont really have to pay to get what they want. This is business logic and I dont have anything personal against anyone.

Sorry about the long post

Apparently I had a lot to say about this

[This message has been edited by nickd (edited 04-01-2001).]

04-01-2001, 05:30 PM
nickd Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 32	This thread is very interesting and I had to post my opinion about it. First of all let me say that I think TheHun has the right to do whatever he wants on his site, he wants to ban a freehost or a sponsor, that is his business and everyone should respect that. Even though I respect TheHun's choice to band ARS, I however strongly disagree with his motivations. TheHun claims that ARS and other sites using chain consoles are giving the adult industry a bad name and that consoles are killing the economy and so on. In my opinion, this is not true. The reason why ARS, cyber erotica, cen and most big sponsors added exit consoles is because they had to in order to generate enough sales to keep the business rolling. Convertion rates and recurrings have been dropping and the huge competition is one of the reason why as TheHun says, but the main is reason is , sorry to say that, but TheHun himself. His site is freeloaders heaven, hardcore, mature, teen,lesbian, voyeur, amateur, black, inter -race and even bestiality (sad but true) pics and videos are available for free! Very easy to navigate and a huge archive is available of everything freeloaders have always wanted which in my personal opinion makes it the hugest, cleanest and most nuisable adulte site in the porn business. In some some way , TheHun is the Napster of porn. TheHun claims that his site is not as good as a paysite and that he's basically just a link site helping others. These 2 statements are false. There are more pics and videos on his site than needed to satisfy a big majority of free loaders on the net. And on top of that there is barely advertising on TheHun or in the galleries he lists. Most banners used on the site and on galleries are old regular banners which pull the less. Even pay sites are almost harder to surf than the hun, just sign up for a big pay site and you will see a directory of links to content packages with ads and stuff. Link sites are good for the industry, but TheHun isnt one. If you look at Tommys-Bookmarks, you will see big ads, blind links in a good manner, enter pages with ads, top referer lists, link trades and free previews on many sites...This is perfect and thats how it should be. PersianKitty is also an awesome site and so many others. There is a very big difference between a link site and TheHun. Free porn is good and will always be there? I agree with TheHun on this but again there is a big difference between offering a sample and giving away everything for free without any hassle. Everyone knows the company Tide which sells products to wash your clothes?. They sent me a sample of their product by mail a long time ago, my girfriend tried it and liked it. We remember the brand name and it was good avertising. But lets say Tide would start to send me a sample every week forever? Do you think I would actually pay for the product? Or maybe pay for another laundry detergent jsut because it might be a littlle better? And how others companies could sell their laundry detergent if Tide gives everything away for free? Sure Tide would get a huge exposure, lots of friends etc..and would probably still be able to make money with a the publicity you know. But wouldnt it affect the whole industry of laundry detergents? You dont think its a good example? Then how about someone open a sex shop with a free section that offers everything people need, but with also a pay section with some more cool stuff, sure some people would pay but most people would just get their freebies(actually everything being sold in other sex shops) and leave. The whole sex shop industry would be in big trouble dont you think? What I'm trying to say here is that the "new" industry(internet) and the old industry are basically the same. If you want to sell something don't give it for free. The only big difference is that on the net, you can give people free stuff without having to actually pay for this stuff. Tide or sex shops cant do that. No wonder why NASDAQ shows such low numbers. Everyone on the net is giving everything for free causing real companies to go bankcrupcy because they cant sell anything anymore. The fact is that the more porn the surfers will get, the more greedy they will get, the more they will get used to the fact that they dont really have to pay to get what they want. This is business logic and I dont have anything personal against anyone. Sorry about the long post Apparently I had a lot to say about this [This message has been edited by nickd (edited 04-01-2001).]