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The Hun · 04-01-2001, 02:59 AM

I think most answers speak for themselves. I see people here bringing a point across and I see people here bashing others for not agreeing with them, or bashing others for agreeing with someone they don't agree with. So far I didn't hear an awful lot of positive arguments for consoles. The only one I did see was "I get 30% from my revenue from consoles". Good point. But I wonder how many sales you would get that click, but don't sign up right away. Especially newbies want to see options. They don't know what's around. So they click a banner. Might think "that's nice" but click back. That person might very well sign up later. But if they're trapped in a loop of consoles they might not click any banners at all.

Funny to see how people are comparing me with dictators. People that lower themselves to remarks like that clearly don't have any better defences. I'm not telling people what to do, simple. I don't run the Internet. The Internet will survive even if I wouldn't be here. So how am I in the position to dictate? I do know I'm making money. And I do know have been doing that for quite some time and I don't think I'll stop very soon. So I must be doing something right huh? The good thing about an honest income is that is lasts. I don't have to worry about traffic every day 'cause I know that as long as I keep treating my visitors with the upmost respect that they'll be back some day.

I started this thread in order to get a discussion going. That worked. I know I send a lot of traffic to paysites. If not through my own sites then indirectly throught the 80 galleries that are listed every day. I don't like telling people what sponsors they can't use. It would be great if those sponsors would have figured out non-annoying ways of getting traffic themselves. There are a few sponsors eligable to be blacklisted. Those are pretty big sponsors (ARS, Join4free, sweetloads, Babylon-X, CyberErotica, to name a few). All these programs have been making webmasters a lot of money. And they proved to be reliable when it comes to paying out their webmasters. And I have a lot of respect for that. The simplest solution would be a separate sponsor program that doesn't pop up a list of consoles. And that can be done very easily by sending traffic to a different URL. I could adapt my bot so it would tell people that the sponsor is good, but that they need to change their URL to one that doesn't pop up the loop of consoles. I think it would be a big shame to entirly blacklist these programs.

So, I'm open for this dialog. And I really hope the sponsors will go for this. I know I can send the traffic to justify the extra work. Some sponsors have done things like these already (truecelebs for instance), which is great. That sponsor can make money the way they want. And I don't have problems sending them traffic as long as I'm sure that my visitors are not trapped in a loop of consoles. That's the solution I like to see in the near future.

04-01-2001, 02:59 AM
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	I think most answers speak for themselves. I see people here bringing a point across and I see people here bashing others for not agreeing with them, or bashing others for agreeing with someone they don't agree with. So far I didn't hear an awful lot of positive arguments for consoles. The only one I did see was "I get 30% from my revenue from consoles". Good point. But I wonder how many sales you would get that click, but don't sign up right away. Especially newbies want to see options. They don't know what's around. So they click a banner. Might think "that's nice" but click back. That person might very well sign up later. But if they're trapped in a loop of consoles they might not click any banners at all. Funny to see how people are comparing me with dictators. People that lower themselves to remarks like that clearly don't have any better defences. I'm not telling people what to do, simple. I don't run the Internet. The Internet will survive even if I wouldn't be here. So how am I in the position to dictate? I do know I'm making money. And I do know have been doing that for quite some time and I don't think I'll stop very soon. So I must be doing something right huh? The good thing about an honest income is that is lasts. I don't have to worry about traffic every day 'cause I know that as long as I keep treating my visitors with the upmost respect that they'll be back some day. I started this thread in order to get a discussion going. That worked. I know I send a lot of traffic to paysites. If not through my own sites then indirectly throught the 80 galleries that are listed every day. I don't like telling people what sponsors they can't use. It would be great if those sponsors would have figured out non-annoying ways of getting traffic themselves. There are a few sponsors eligable to be blacklisted. Those are pretty big sponsors (ARS, Join4free, sweetloads, Babylon-X, CyberErotica, to name a few). All these programs have been making webmasters a lot of money. And they proved to be reliable when it comes to paying out their webmasters. And I have a lot of respect for that. The simplest solution would be a separate sponsor program that doesn't pop up a list of consoles. And that can be done very easily by sending traffic to a different URL. I could adapt my bot so it would tell people that the sponsor is good, but that they need to change their URL to one that doesn't pop up the loop of consoles. I think it would be a big shame to entirly blacklist these programs. So, I'm open for this dialog. And I really hope the sponsors will go for this. I know I can send the traffic to justify the extra work. Some sponsors have done things like these already (truecelebs for instance), which is great. That sponsor can make money the way they want. And I don't have problems sending them traffic as long as I'm sure that my visitors are not trapped in a loop of consoles. That's the solution I like to see in the near future.