Moose, I'll take a little time to try to answer you best I can. (like you are really waiting LOL)
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Tell me this then
Why does my non-free porn traffic (gets no free porn whatsover HAS to pay for it) does 1:40 - 1:45
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Because they are the BEST kind of surfer. Give me opt-in e-mail addresses, AVS surfers, and paysite members, any time, over any free site traffic. They already let you know they will whip out the plastic (maybe not the e-mails, but they convert much better than avg). I said it, I agree with you - TGP traffic has gone down over the past 12-16 months. It was not great to start with, it sucks worse now.
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Where as my free porn traffic does 1:1000 and costs are about 60% of the sale by the time bandwidth is paid for.
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1:1000 isn't even that bad these days. Which is sad.
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What you are not understanding here (and i have said it before) Is we are selling to males (me being one i understand) If we are getting FREE pussy.....we will not pay for it. If the Free pussy is taken away or limited....males will jump through HOOPS to get to it.
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Oh, I understand it. It is why I say I like the concept of TGP2. I don't like to give porn away. I don't like seeing 30 pic hardcore galleries. I fucking hate seeing expensive content like Fresh Photos on free sites. I wish I could snap my fingers and make 95% of all other webmasters go away. I think hardcore is bad for sales, and I don't think webmasters should even show pink in the pics. Tease, get hot, get em to a sponsor.
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I used to be a big TGP poster up until about a year ago..look around at some of the resource sites(netpond,topiche,weboverdrive), you will find tutorials i have written on the subject teaching the gallery biz.But in the last year the traffic has gotten so horrible that it is not worth it and something needs to change.The only thing keeping it alive is the CHEAP bandwidth.It has dropped 60% in the last year right alongside the TGP gallery posting revenues.
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I'd have to agree. I think that overall, it is harder to get sales. Where I used to count on getting 20 sales/day, I now wonder if I will get skunked. I also know who you are, and I respect you as a professional. I'm not saying that you don't know what you are doing, and that is the reason for the sales drop-off.
I would like to see if TGP2 gets rolling. I don't know if my ideas of traffic building would be embraced (basically, 3 clicks and good riddance). I see a lot of talk about bookmarkers, and quality. Those words make me nervous. I think TGP2 could have inflated numbers just as quickly as CJ, CJ2, and TGP if guys made a commitment to trading. I guess the question would be if trading like that would lower these click thru/sales ratios I keep seeing everyone beat their chest with.
More traffic on the TGP2 sites, more surfers in the system, but will the ratios hold up?
Unriz3n -
I see a few TGP2 guys feeding their sites by submitting squeaky clean TGP galleries with links to their site. This is still TGP traffic. Why don't you guys just trade with TGPs? At least to prime the pump.
All in all, I would expect a huge change over to TGP2 the day you see TGP2 sites doing over 100K/day. You keep hot shit ratios, and build up traffic, you will see most regular TGPs flip. I know a lot of guys that have 100k/day+ and can't seem to make enough money off the site. These days, with cheap bandwidth, it's easier to just make 5 shitty TGPs, and get your money that way.