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Steve · 10-18-2001, 11:59 AM

As a long time TGP owner, I'd just like to say that I am NOT anti-TGP2. I have a lot of respect for Colin, Moose, and a lot of the people involved in this thing. I do not feel threatened by TGP2, I don't consider it an organized effort to put me out of business.

I just see some flaws in the system, as it stands today. Number one is traffic. You guys don't have it, so how will you get it?

1)Will you spam the search engines?
That would be retarded - that traffic should NEVER see a pic, and be sent to a sponsor ASAP.

2)Will you trade with regular TGPs?
Counter-productive. Even if you trade with a site like mine (loaded with trades), the surfer will see the extra content and either bookmark(doubtful in my case), or get slammed into a circle jerk of numerous other TGPs. Highly unlikely he'll find his way back to TGP2.

3)Will you buy the traffic?
Well, even 404 traffic from a free host isn't cheap. And it's shit, mainly coming from... guess what? TGPs. So maybe that isn't too hot of an idea, either.

I have surfed the TGP2 boards occasionally. I have surfed TGP2 sites. I see potential headaches out the ass with gallery pages that allow pics on pages. As an old time TGP owner, I remember the reason most of us killed that rule. Cheaters. Many webmasters will fuck you 8 ways till Sunday, damn near every chance they get. I never want to review gallery pages with pics on HTML again. Too easy to change that shit once listed and fuck around.

I was considering building tons of my own TGP2 galleries, grabbing one of those free traffic trade scripts, and jumping and seeing what happens. But honestly, I think that gallery building time would be better served making SE pages.

Now don't go thinking that I feel TGP is the be all and end all. I'm not blind. I see sign-up ratios dropping, and I also notice how more and more, TGP traffic is best used for "bullshit" - personal ads, anything with the word "free" in it, and dialers. And I'm not here to hold hands with surfers, either. I can't compare to the Hun, or Worldsex. I'll never have a site that clean. I'm not wired that way. I tried it, and I sucked at it. I was taught years ago that the surfer was my enemy, and to either ship him to a sponsor, or dump his cheap ass on somebody else. That theory got me started making money, and it hasn't failed me since.

10-18-2001, 11:59 AM
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	As a long time TGP owner, I'd just like to say that I am NOT anti-TGP2. I have a lot of respect for Colin, Moose, and a lot of the people involved in this thing. I do not feel threatened by TGP2, I don't consider it an organized effort to put me out of business. I just see some flaws in the system, as it stands today. Number one is traffic. You guys don't have it, so how will you get it? 1)Will you spam the search engines? That would be retarded - that traffic should NEVER see a pic, and be sent to a sponsor ASAP. 2)Will you trade with regular TGPs? Counter-productive. Even if you trade with a site like mine (loaded with trades), the surfer will see the extra content and either bookmark(doubtful in my case), or get slammed into a circle jerk of numerous other TGPs. Highly unlikely he'll find his way back to TGP2. 3)Will you buy the traffic? Well, even 404 traffic from a free host isn't cheap. And it's shit, mainly coming from... guess what? TGPs. So maybe that isn't too hot of an idea, either. I have surfed the TGP2 boards occasionally. I have surfed TGP2 sites. I see potential headaches out the ass with gallery pages that allow pics on pages. As an old time TGP owner, I remember the reason most of us killed that rule. Cheaters. Many webmasters will fuck you 8 ways till Sunday, damn near every chance they get. I never want to review gallery pages with pics on HTML again. Too easy to change that shit once listed and fuck around. I was considering building tons of my own TGP2 galleries, grabbing one of those free traffic trade scripts, and jumping and seeing what happens. But honestly, I think that gallery building time would be better served making SE pages. Now don't go thinking that I feel TGP is the be all and end all. I'm not blind. I see sign-up ratios dropping, and I also notice how more and more, TGP traffic is best used for "bullshit" - personal ads, anything with the word "free" in it, and dialers. And I'm not here to hold hands with surfers, either. I can't compare to the Hun, or Worldsex. I'll never have a site that clean. I'm not wired that way. I tried it, and I sucked at it. I was taught years ago that the surfer was my enemy, and to either ship him to a sponsor, or dump his cheap ass on somebody else. That theory got me started making money, and it hasn't failed me since.