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The Hun · 10-18-2001, 02:37 AM

Ok, I'll answer some questions that were put here:

Are TGP players making less now than last year, are revenues still decreasing?
Does it make good business sense to give less free pix, send more visitors to sponsors and lower bandwidth bills?
Me personally has to answer 'no' to making less. I make more than I did last year, revenues are still going up. It is good thinking to give less free pics, more visitors to sponsors and lower bandwidth, but it's naive (in other words, not good business sense) to try to do that with thousands of TGPs out there.

Do you want your sites bookmarked by bandwidth sucking, no credit card using, free picture hunting leeches?
No, I HAVE (and want) my page bookmarked by people that indeed come back a lot, but many of 'em buy a membership every now and then. 'cause they trust my site and they trust what's advertised on there. I'd much rather have 2,000,000 people that bookmarked my site and that every now and then buy a membership than a business purely based on newbies that sign up once and then eventualy find a site like mine ;-)

Does it matter what your counter says?
Yes, it does if you're selling advertising on your page.

Who is really interested in what your checks are every week and every month?
huh?

From my perspective TGP2 offers a better revenue option. More eyes to sponsors (for list owners) and less bandwidth used (for galley builders)
I agree on the less bandwidth, I don't agree on the more eyes. Still, 0.5% of 50K is more than 1.5% of 2K...

Wolfshade. I don't know what gave you the idea, but I'm not against TGP2's (I prefer calling 'em CJ3) just because 'cause they would operate in my field. And that's because they simply don't. I make money 'cause I have all these bookmarkers. CJ3 is targeting newbies, 'cause once they found a "real" link-site they won't go back to CJ3. Simple as that. It's two separate markets, they're not operating in my field at all. And I'm sure one will never follow up the other. I'm not against 'em at all. I think it's naive to think it's a follow-up for TGP's though. Business-wise I don't think it's a very good idea. But I'm not against 'em. that's a misconception from you. I never stated anything along the lines of me being against TGP2's...

I always build businesses to serve clients. My clients are my visitors. As long as the visitors come I know the gallery submitters and advertisers will also come. The other way around it won't work. Advertisers are interested in sites with a lot of visitors, visitors are not interested in a site with a lot of adversisers...

Harvey put it in his post as well, I think he made a very strong point. It's two different strategies...

[This message has been edited by The Hun (edited 10-18-2001).]

10-18-2001, 02:37 AM
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	Ok, I'll answer some questions that were put here: Are TGP players making less now than last year, are revenues still decreasing? Does it make good business sense to give less free pix, send more visitors to sponsors and lower bandwidth bills? Me personally has to answer 'no' to making less. I make more than I did last year, revenues are still going up. It is good thinking to give less free pics, more visitors to sponsors and lower bandwidth, but it's naive (in other words, not good business sense) to try to do that with thousands of TGPs out there. Do you want your sites bookmarked by bandwidth sucking, no credit card using, free picture hunting leeches? No, I HAVE (and want) my page bookmarked by people that indeed come back a lot, but many of 'em buy a membership every now and then. 'cause they trust my site and they trust what's advertised on there. I'd much rather have 2,000,000 people that bookmarked my site and that every now and then buy a membership than a business purely based on newbies that sign up once and then eventualy find a site like mine ;-) Does it matter what your counter says? Yes, it does if you're selling advertising on your page. Who is really interested in what your checks are every week and every month? huh? From my perspective TGP2 offers a better revenue option. More eyes to sponsors (for list owners) and less bandwidth used (for galley builders) I agree on the less bandwidth, I don't agree on the more eyes. Still, 0.5% of 50K is more than 1.5% of 2K... Wolfshade. I don't know what gave you the idea, but I'm not against TGP2's (I prefer calling 'em CJ3) just because 'cause they would operate in my field. And that's because they simply don't. I make money 'cause I have all these bookmarkers. CJ3 is targeting newbies, 'cause once they found a "real" link-site they won't go back to CJ3. Simple as that. It's two separate markets, they're not operating in my field at all. And I'm sure one will never follow up the other. I'm not against 'em at all. I think it's naive to think it's a follow-up for TGP's though. Business-wise I don't think it's a very good idea. But I'm not against 'em. that's a misconception from you. I never stated anything along the lines of me being against TGP2's... I always build businesses to serve clients. My clients are my visitors. As long as the visitors come I know the gallery submitters and advertisers will also come. The other way around it won't work. Advertisers are interested in sites with a lot of visitors, visitors are not interested in a site with a lot of adversisers... Harvey put it in his post as well, I think he made a very strong point. It's two different strategies... [This message has been edited by The Hun (edited 10-18-2001).]