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scoreman · 06-03-2004, 04:14 AM

Everyone here should step back and remember that right now he is still an INNOCENT MAN. Seriously, wtf happened to giving the guy the presumption of innocence? Wealthy people are very often the target of bullshit charges, especially when it comes to crimes of violence as they are precursors to lawsuits. Lemme tell ya, there is NOTHING better for a civil lawsuit than to have the state of Florida hand you a criminal conviction first. Talk about a slam dunk.

I posted this just a bit ago on that other board.

In Florida, Aggravated Assault is a threat made with a weapon. Not a gun though as that would have been listed specifically as an enhancement (gun charges in florida carry mandatory sentences). Could have been anything like a pool cue or a bottle, etc. Usually amts to someone holding up a stick and saying something like he will knock them back into the next century. It is a felony but also know that in Florida cops arrest with charges that are reviewed by the asst state attorneys who have to make what is called a filing decision. The charges in fact could be elevated or reduced depending on what the prosecutor thinks of them. Right now, I am sure hired counsel by Joe E is attempting to get that pushed to a 1st MM charge of simple assault.

The battery charge can be anything from some punching to a simple push. It was not a massive beatdown as then it would have been listed as an aggravated battery. Joe E is lucky thats not the charge because in Florida Ag Battery on a +65 yr old carries a mandatory three year stint in the pokey.

My experience has been that money settles these cases quite nicely. An agreement made with the victims and suddenly the prosecutor is getting calls saying, "well now that I think of it, I wasnt really thinking he would hit me with that stick" and "well I pushed him as well and I think I would rather not testify".

The Dealing in Stolen Property is a second degree felony which is classified as a max 15 yr felony. The Ag Assault is also a 2nd degree and the Battery charge is a 3rd degree Felony charge which is a 5 yr charge. The pot charge is a 1 yr max 1st degree Misdemeanor charge. For severity rank on potential sentence the most serious is the ag assault with the DSP charge next and then the battery and lastly the pot charge.

In Florida, upon conviction for a felony, the sentence range is decided by a points system. Charges are assigned points, with additional points added for previous record and other factors such as victim injuries. Unless Joe E has a major record, these charges if they all hold up (unlikely but just for the sake of discussion say they do)score at the range for discretionary state prison with a sentence range of about 18 months. Thats assuming he has no prior record and the victim injury was slight.

[Dave takes off his lawyer hat and now returns back to his regular programming of big boobies]

06-03-2004, 04:14 AM
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	Everyone here should step back and remember that right now he is still an INNOCENT MAN. Seriously, wtf happened to giving the guy the presumption of innocence? Wealthy people are very often the target of bullshit charges, especially when it comes to crimes of violence as they are precursors to lawsuits. Lemme tell ya, there is NOTHING better for a civil lawsuit than to have the state of Florida hand you a criminal conviction first. Talk about a slam dunk. I posted this just a bit ago on that other board. In Florida, Aggravated Assault is a threat made with a weapon. Not a gun though as that would have been listed specifically as an enhancement (gun charges in florida carry mandatory sentences). Could have been anything like a pool cue or a bottle, etc. Usually amts to someone holding up a stick and saying something like he will knock them back into the next century. It is a felony but also know that in Florida cops arrest with charges that are reviewed by the asst state attorneys who have to make what is called a filing decision. The charges in fact could be elevated or reduced depending on what the prosecutor thinks of them. Right now, I am sure hired counsel by Joe E is attempting to get that pushed to a 1st MM charge of simple assault. The battery charge can be anything from some punching to a simple push. It was not a massive beatdown as then it would have been listed as an aggravated battery. Joe E is lucky thats not the charge because in Florida Ag Battery on a +65 yr old carries a mandatory three year stint in the pokey. My experience has been that money settles these cases quite nicely. An agreement made with the victims and suddenly the prosecutor is getting calls saying, "well now that I think of it, I wasnt really thinking he would hit me with that stick" and "well I pushed him as well and I think I would rather not testify". The Dealing in Stolen Property is a second degree felony which is classified as a max 15 yr felony. The Ag Assault is also a 2nd degree and the Battery charge is a 3rd degree Felony charge which is a 5 yr charge. The pot charge is a 1 yr max 1st degree Misdemeanor charge. For severity rank on potential sentence the most serious is the ag assault with the DSP charge next and then the battery and lastly the pot charge. In Florida, upon conviction for a felony, the sentence range is decided by a points system. Charges are assigned points, with additional points added for previous record and other factors such as victim injuries. Unless Joe E has a major record, these charges if they all hold up (unlikely but just for the sake of discussion say they do)score at the range for discretionary state prison with a sentence range of about 18 months. Thats assuming he has no prior record and the victim injury was slight. [Dave takes off his lawyer hat and now returns back to his regular programming of big boobies] __________________ Last edited by scoreman; 06-03-2004 at 04:16 AM..